Can't add passenger carriages to electric trains.

[OwlPie]

Hi There

I'm sure this is a real noob question, and I realise that unless the settings are changed vehicles expire after a certain date. But when that point comes (the move from diesel to electric) I can't add passenger or mail carriages at all. I guess I'm missing something, but where do you build passenger carriages for electric trains etc? I did add an electric depot.

If anyone can help that'd be great, playing 1 player I just switch it off, but if I was to host a server to play with someone else I don't know how I'd get around it.

Thanks,
Owl

[OwlPie]

Well I thought perhaps there comes a point where you are meant to switch to monorail for passenger transport, so I started a new game and was using the cheat to skip years, trying to see if the passenger carriage disappearance coincided with unlocking monorails, and this time it didn't disappear. However before that in another game, I noticed that passenger carriages disappeared but I could still build mail carriages, where normally I find they disappear at the same time.

Is this is a bug or am I being really stupid?

[planetmaker]

Sounds weired. But if you use weired NewGRFs all bets are off.

[Alberth]

@OwlPie:
Sorry, but your description much too vague to understand your problem, let alone we know how to solve it.
Please give us a concrete example of what fails for you, as detailed as possible.
What usually works is to post a savegame, and point out eg with pictures how it doesn't work.

[OwlPie]

Thanks guys, I will get a save game sorted out. All I'm using is the 32bb graphics, other than that its vanilla.

The problem really is pretty straightforward tho, both passenger and mail carriages can't be built. They are not present when you go to buy new vehicle.

[bvoice360]

Before starting a new game, go into advanced settings and look for the setting 'vehicles never expire'

[Voyager One]

@OwlPie - What crosses my mind is one question: Did you perhaps change some NewGRF during the game?

[xshorex]

Hi! I'm having exactly the same problem here. After converting to electric railroad, passengers and mail wagons just disappeared from the "new vehicle" menu in the depots. Even going back to previous saved points, where I'm sure I built them, the problem is the same.
The year is 2001.
I'am using zbase and 8/32bpp Trains 2CC.

Thanks

[kamnet]

Can you post a save game of before and after so somebody can look at them?

[xshorex]

Hi,

A saved game before it happens (now it happens the same way here too)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/470 ... 201987.sav

Last saved game:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/470 ... 202000.sav

Thanks

[planetmaker]

That's indeed very likely an effect of the NewGRF you use: it has the rail wagons for passengers and mail expire between those two dates.

You probably want to play games either without any NewGRF (and simply use the zBase base set) and / or use a nightly version of OpenGFX+ Trains

[xshorex]

Is there a way to recover this saved games?

[adf88]

In your current game you can disable vehicle expiration (don't forget to 'resetengines' in console).