Thread voting

[Expresso]

This would imo only apply to the suggestions and development forums of transport empire, openttd and ttdpatch and ofcourse this subforum.

The basic idea is to allow people to spend "interest points" on threads. A given user should only be able to spend one point on any one thread, but they could later be moved, returned or recollected. The more interest points a thread collects, the longer it gets to stick at the top, so the highest rated is the one to stick at the top longest.

Who voted on a thread should be treated as anonymous information. The user should have a number of points available influenced by postcount, bans and or warnings against the user.

This is a more accessible forum feature to give feedback about ideas from the community then posting a comment. It also helps against suppression of ideas by vocal members as well as giving the developers a simple means to measure what the community desires most.

Now, to prevent the front page from filling up with ancient threads, the number of votes counted for a thread could be reduced by the number of days past since the last post in the thread.

[ChillCore]

Hmm, so new threads with no point spawn at page 20?
Are you sure you want that?

[Chrill]

A mod? For TT-Forums? One that serves no purpose? You can always watch topics or get notifications when someone replies. Also, if someone does reply, the topic ends up on top. It's real simple the way it works today

[Expresso]

A mod? For TT-Forums? One that serves no purpose?

Yes, it does serve a purpose. The exact purpose you could have read in my previous post.

You can always watch topics or get notifications when someone replies.

This is something completely different then watching threads, and that's not what this suggestion is about.

Also, if someone does reply, the topic ends up on top. It's real simple the way it works today

Real simple and broken by design. While replying should bump the topic to the top, there is no way to see what topic actually draws interest in the community beyond those who post in it. While the OP of a given thread might see what he had to say shredded to pieces by some or even all people who reply, those who vote for the thread can still show that the idea is interesting without the need of making a post (they might have nothing to add to the discussion).

[DaleStan]

This is a more accessible forum feature to give feedback about ideas from the community then posting a comment. It also helps against suppression of ideas by vocal members as well as giving the developers a simple means to measure what the community desires most.

1) Which vocal members? And how often are said vocal members actually wrong, as opposed to merely unpopular?
2) Since when have the devs cared what the community wants? And since when has what the community wants been good for it? (I think you'll find that the answers to these are, in reverse order, "rarely", and "only on those rare occasions that what the community wants happens to be good for it.")

[Hyronymus]

Any type of voting mechanism is doomed to be rejected on this forum. It just doesn't work unless you have a large active group of honest and dedicated people.

[JamieLei]

I vote this topic -4 since I don't like this idea.

Plus even if only 2 people are engaged in a topic, why shouldn't it be bumped to the top? - it's still an active thread!

[Plastikman]

so basically you want a way to bump topics that have no active discussion in them?

if thats the case,
sounds like it would be abused by some and ignored by most.


a similar thing and off topic for this thread...
altho it would be nice that if the last post in a topic is edited, it bumps the topic. A few other forums do this.
more then a dozen times i have gone back and edited my post from a an hour to days previous and no one notices because i didn't double post.

[ChillCore]

A bump button would be better. Sometimes you want to edit some spelling. I do.

[JamieLei]

Bump button? - are you mad?

There's so much abuse for that already when people making "How do I do this" and bumping it 5 mins later with a "WAAAH WHY DOES NOONE CARE" when noone has replied.

[ChillCore]

Bump button? - are you mad?

Only slightly, and it does not hurt.

I meant that a bump button would be better than the thread being bumped by making an edit.
Not that we should have one here.

There's so much abuse for that already when people making "How do I do this" and bumping it 5 mins later with a "WAAAH WHY DOES NOONE CARE" when noone has replied.

Yes, they are annoying. Most of the time they are young. Kids and patience ...

[orudge]

phpBB 3 actually has a bump button. I had it enabled for about a day before disabling it. It particularly annoys me because the way it works is that it modifies the posting date of the last post, which is rather ugly. I don't see that we really need one, if anything useful is happening in a thread, somebody will post to it.

[Plastikman]

Oh my lord! a bump button?! that is just asking for trouble.

I would hunt down and shoot noobs.. (virtually of course)

I think Owen was correct in this case.

[ChillCore]

I agree too.
But if you allow bumping while editing the last post, nothing stops me from adding/removing a space every so much time to achieve the same.
And then topics get bumped even if one did not have the intention to do so.

I have been on another forum with a lot more testosterone, before me joining here, and there most users even do not bother using it even while it is there for them to use.
I will not give a link, as I would not let my son visit it, you will not miss much.
I do not go there very often anymore because of the flaming and such.
Only to watch a few cool vids from time to time or to read some technical stuff, it is a motor stunting site.(No, I do not stunt myself)
Hating is a sport there but it is only to compensate for their incompetence I think, even one of the mods started his own site because he was getting tired of it.

I know Owen does not like mods, I respect that.
Anyway I am not asking for it. It is fine by me the way it is.
Most of the times I have something to say or to ask, if I feel the need to bump a topic.

[orudge]

Editing doesn't bump a thread, and I still don't see why it should. Topics are displayed in a purely date-based order. Nice and simple. Bumping adds in all sorts of complexity and smellyness. If there's been a significant update to a thread, post a new post in it - easy.

[ChillCore]

I think that is one of the best ideas so far, if I may say so. Indeed it is.

[JamieLei]

Editing doesn't bump a thread, and I still don't see why it should. Topics are displayed in a purely date-based order. Nice and simple. Bumping adds in all sorts of complexity and smellyness. If there's been a significant update to a thread, post a new post in it - easy.

Plus if there's something that's so important it must be at the top, that's what Stickies are for. Nice and Simple!