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Corporation Misc.

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Corporation Groups/Sales
Say Company A and Company B are buddies. They want to start a massive project; but each has only half the resources. Now, Company A could restart and join Company B, but he doesn't want to. He wants to keep his own company, but build, destroy, and terraform areas claimed as part of the Group.

Under Companies drop down, in multiplayer, select "propose group" then "2". if you select 1, that just melds companies- ideal for absorption on contract basis, for example:
Company A wants to purchase company B. B's CEO agrees, and will give A B for a sum of money, say $10. Company B then sells itself into the AB group- just called 'A', because B is no longer. All of B's assets are now owned by A.
2 allows you to back out at any time, and you both keep separate treasuries, but profits in the Group treasury are split (you choose; 25/75, 50/50) to each of the companies making up the group.
Loans
Company A is running out of money for the Megatron Airport project. But Company B has plenty. However, company B wants something in return; namely an interest rate.
Click the finances tab, scroll down to Company B. Select "Propose Loan", then fill in the fields: Amount, Duration (N/A is a valid answer), and finally Security (pick vehicles, stations, etc up to the value of the loan. If you can not pay, they are taken by the loaner.) The proposal is sent to Company B, who then adds interest rate and yes/no.
More Vehicles
Just add a couple of newGRFs into the base game; heavy equipment already has a plethora of trucks, buses and everything else. Add trailers setup and road depots like Simutrans, and a 128bpp gfx set and you have my (and every other gamer's) heart. As if you didn't already, you jerks. This game ruined my life! Now I hover over my vehicle choppers and train kaboom like there is no tomorrow.
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Corporate groups: if you are using the Infrastructure Sharing (IS) patch, companies can share stations, depots, airports, and rail/road lines.

Loans: In multiplayer companies can send each other money.

Vehicles: the entire point of NewGRF vehicles is to add whatever you want. The base vehicles are never going to change.
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Loans in MP are basically giving, not loans.

I'm talking about in the base game, not a newGRF.

And most MP games are vanilla. So how would adding some GRFs to base game be bad?
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Kelidoskoped wrote:And most MP games are vanilla. So how would adding some GRFs to base game be bad?
There are no universally liked NewGRFs. What looks essnetial to you is useless to me, and vice versa. Everybody has his/her own favorite NewGRF collection.

In addition, in a distributed setup, like what open source is, you cannot distribute a NewGRF from author A and not from author B. The only available solutions are
- None, or
- Everything.

We do both, depending on whether you can find and use the content service.
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Kelidoskoped wrote:Loans in MP are basically giving, not loans.

I'm talking about in the base game, not a newGRF.

And most MP games are vanilla. So how would adding some GRFs to base game be bad?

I think that a loan system for MP would be quite a nice touch... I also can't see it being *that* difficult to create a patch for.
From what I remember of the OTTD src:

We have monthly and yearly event methods that can do the repaying and/or interest payments using the existing send money method.
The tricky thing is what we do in regards to payments when the company is broke again (as adding securities is going to be trickier).

The base of the securities though could be simplified by saying you can only select X vehicles and their stations (Buses/Ships) up to the loan value which become the lenders upon defaulting... By saying that the vehicles AND stations become the lenders I think we simplify how we transfer/takeover upon a default...
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burty wrote:
Kelidoskoped wrote:Loans in MP are basically giving, not loans.

I'm talking about in the base game, not a newGRF.

And most MP games are vanilla. So how would adding some GRFs to base game be bad?

I think that a loan system for MP would be quite a nice touch... I also can't see it being *that* difficult to create a patch for.
From what I remember of the OTTD src:

We have monthly and yearly event methods that can do the repaying and/or interest payments using the existing send money method.
The tricky thing is what we do in regards to payments when the company is broke again (as adding securities is going to be trickier).

The base of the securities though could be simplified by saying you can only select X vehicles and their stations (Buses/Ships) up to the loan value which become the lenders upon defaulting... By saying that the vehicles AND stations become the lenders I think we simplify how we transfer/takeover upon a default...
If the company goes bankrupt, as well, and a loan was active, their vehicles and stations would go over to the loaner, or could possibly be sold off- the selling off feature is in the base game. I once bought a company in MP after they went bankrupt (vanilla), so it wouldn't be hard.
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More realism and detail in the corporate/investment markets would be welcome all around.
Right now you have no control at all over a company you own 75% of,and at 100% it ceases to exist identifiably among your holdings rather than being a distinct subsidiary.
Variable interest rates that reflect borrowers' status (along with fluctuating markets) would be a good thing.
So would access to your whole financial history.
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Baldy's Boss wrote:More realism and detail in the corporate/investment markets would be welcome all around.
Right now you have no control at all over a company you own 75% of,and at 100% it ceases to exist identifiably among your holdings rather than being a distinct subsidiary.
Variable interest rates that reflect borrowers' status (along with fluctuating markets) would be a good thing.
So would access to your whole financial history.
The only problem with whole financial history is memory and save games would most likely get huge!


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