After 2010 Future Set

[NekoMaster]

Ok, Im finding it rlly stupid that not very many ppl have made any effort to try and make a Future Set, like i know taht by defualt taht the game ends at 2051 but you can change that in the ini file if you have openttd, but even so, usually after 2010, there are no more new trains,plains, road velicals and boats for like 30-40 years to mess around with.

So i really think somebody should try to make a future set, icant since im not good at making sprites nor can i program grf's but i can give out reasonable ideas for the design of the velical

(srry for spelling (I am a 100% English Canadian) but my skools pc is rlly dumb so i can use spelling corrections to fix it)

[michael blunck]

somebody should try to make a future set, icant since im not good at making sprites nor can i program grf's nor can i write

Using a spellchecker would at least help with the last deficit.

regards
Michael

[DaleStan]

And in general, learning to write makes you more likely to get help with the other ones.

[wallyweb]

I am a 100% English Canadian and I pride myself on not needing a spell checker, but then, I have over 50 years of experience.

[planetmaker]

Ok, Im finding it rlly stupid that not very many ppl have made any effort to try and make a Future Set

So i really think somebody should try to make a future set, icant since im not good at making sprites nor can i program grf's but i can give out reasonable ideas for the design of the velical
(srry for spelling (I am a 100% English Canadian) but my skools pc is rlly dumb so i can use spelling corrections to fix it)

You might give some things a try:
- being that anonymous person which you call for to design this set
- - drawing at least some of those graphics
- - designing names and other stats
- put some more effort into your writing. We might think that you are just as lazy and careful with anything else, too. And "no spellchecker" is for a native speaker a bad excuse with that level of misspelling which makes it for non native speakers nearly unreadable.

[Purno]

(srry for spelling (I am a 100% English Canadian) but my skools pc is rlly dumb so i can use spelling corrections to fix it)

I do hope you don't need a spell checker to know "srry", "skool" and "rlly" are incorrectly spelled? If so, I'd urgently ask your 'skool'-teacher to install another 'skool'-pc...

[Badger]

(srry for spelling (I am a 100% English Canadian) but my skools pc is rlly dumb so i can use spelling corrections to fix it)

How is it your PC's fault that you can't press the correct keys in the correct order?

[Hyronymus]

How is it possible that people forgot the topic about backseat moderating? If you have a problem with the spelling in a post, report the post. That goes for everyone that reacted in this topic, sadly.

[DJ Nekkid]

with some "requests" from my side can I help to code such a set.

And as well, and i _think_ Purno agree with me here; If someone provide sprites with good/high enough quality that is futuristic looking(from now to 2050), it may very well be included in the 2cc set, as we always look for good grapichs to put into it!

However, i must somewhat agree with the above posts. I am no spelling genuis myself, but "sms"-language or "leetspeet" is pretty frouned upon... We can all misspell words, or have unproper grammar due to english not beeing the "mother language" or one have dyslecsia, but "skool" is pretty far from "school" ... and it is clearly some abbriviation (?) of SMS(ish)-language...


Anyway ... nfo/newgrf can be taught. It got a pretty steep learningcurve, no doubt about that, but with some guidance it's more then possible to learn. Im no master, far from it, but i've come pretty far (arguable huh dale and michael? ) in 9 or so months.

And drawing as well, it's an artform, but it's learnable. I've also made a contribution or two to the opengfx project. Understand the scale and lightdirection and you have come a long way. It's hard to make it look good, but it's not that hard to make it look more then acceptable. I mean. You dont have to use more then aproxemately 30ish colors in 3 shades if you use grayscales and two company colors. (iirc: 8 on each cc, and 10 or 12 grayscales). Look at Purno's tutorial, and you may actually be able to draw something semi-decent. Try again two times, and you might be surprised

[NekoMaster]

with some "requests" from my side can I help to code such a set.

And as well, and i _think_ Purno agree with me here; If someone provide sprites with good/high enough quality that is futuristic looking(from now to 2050), it may very well be included in the 2cc set, as we always look for good grapichs to put into it!

However, i must somewhat agree with the above posts. I am no spelling genuis myself, but "sms"-language or "leetspeet" is pretty frouned upon... We can all misspell words, or have unproper grammar due to english not beeing the "mother language" or one have dyslecsia, but "skool" is pretty far from "school" ... and it is clearly some abbriviation (?) of SMS(ish)-language...


Anyway ... nfo/newgrf can be taught. It got a pretty steep learningcurve, no doubt about that, but with some guidance it's more then possible to learn. Im no master, far from it, but i've come pretty far (arguable huh dale and michael? ) in 9 or so months.

And drawing as well, it's an artform, but it's learnable. I've also made a contribution or two to the opengfx project. Understand the scale and lightdirection and you have come a long way. It's hard to make it look good, but it's not that hard to make it look more then acceptable. I mean. You dont have to use more then aproxemately 30ish colors in 3 shades if you use grayscales and two company colors. (iirc: 8 on each cc, and 10 or 12 grayscales). Look at Purno's tutorial, and you may actually be able to draw something semi-decent. Try again two times, and you might be surprised

Well the least i can do is come up with the Design Names and Details, i can do taht much, i am full of ideas to use I just dont havethe skills to put them in action : P
And Im at home now so since Im in my own environment i can type faster with less errors.

BTW, i was thinking of some ideas for a new type of train, called Super Trains, they would be Just as Fast or even faster then HS Trains and would have the Power to deliver ppl or cargo in short time, that way should there be cargo's like Food or Medical Supplies taht need to be transported quickly, a Super Train would be able to do it.
I have 2 Super train idea so far, the Camasutra R-1A and the Camasutra M7R (Camasutra stands for Canadian Made Super Train )

Name : Camasutra R-1A Control Unit
Cost : $77,900
Weight : 30Tonnes
Speed : 280 Km\h
Power : N\A
Running Cost : $2,890/yr
Capacity : N/A
Designed : 2012
Life : 20 Years
Reliability : 79%
Suitable For : N/A
*Needs a Seperate Power Unit!*

Name : Camasutra R-1A Power Unit [Electric]
Cost : $92,120
Weight : 46Tonnes
Speed : 280 Km\h
Power : 3,200 HP
Running Cost : $10,100/yr
Capacity : N/A
Designed : 2012
Life : 20 years
Reliability : 79%
Suitible For : HS Passenger, HS Cargo
*Needs a Control Unit!*

Name : Camasutra M7R Control Unit
Cost : $79,230
Weight : 32Tonnes
Speed : 315 Km\h
Power : N/A
Running Cost : $4,390
Capacity : N/A
Designed : 2018
Life : 22 Years
Reliability : 83%
Suitable For : N/A
*Needs a Separate Power Unit*

Name : Camasutra M7R Power Unit [Turbine]
Cost : $109,800
Weight : 64Tonnes
Speed : 315 Km\h
Power : 4,250HP
Running Cost : $18,670/yr
Capacity : N/A
Designed : 2018
Life : 22 Years
Reliability : 83%
Suitable For : HS passenger, HS Cargo
*Needs a Separate Control Unit*

Ill come back after i have a decent list of Trains to make, and i would like it so that this would be compatible with most sets so taht this can kinda pick up where most sets stop.

[DJ Nekkid]

if theese are to be included in the 2cc-set are the running- and purchase costs bound to be changed... as they are kind of "fixed" in a certain scale, and needs to be adjusted to fit in with the other trains...

but any ideas are welcome

[NekoMaster]

if theese are to be included in the 2cc-set are the running- and purchase costs bound to be changed... as they are kind of "fixed" in a certain scale, and needs to be adjusted to fit in with the other trains...

but any ideas are welcome

K, do you think i could help with ideas for future type trains including maybe maglevs and maybe mono rails in the 2cc set?
Oh BTW, i kinda made sprite for the C-R1A Train, its probably not the greatest but It might help.
The first car is the Control Unit, the second is a Electric Power Unit. I was thinking taht maybe Super Trains could have 3 types of power units which all have there pros and cons. The 3 types would be Electric, Gas Turbine and Diesel

Electric - Fastest but Not As powerful and needs electrified tracks.

Gas Turbine - Offers a balence of Speed and Power but at a Higher Cost, and also Gas Turbines would have a Slightly lower Reliablity

Diesel - Would Provide the Most power but the Least Speed and also Pollutes more, but is your only choice for moveing Heavy and Bulk Cargo across flat land or up hills/mountians. Its also the Cheapest

[NekoMaster]

Oh and heres the C-M7R with its Gas Turbine Power Unit and also a Bi Lvl Passenger Car, probably should have some way to make it so you cant have a regular or bi lvl passenger car right after a Gas Turbine P. Unit

[athanasios]

"Camasutra"? What a name. And we would have the third X- rated set!

[NekoMaster]

"Camasutra"? What a name. And we would have the third X- rated set!

X-rated? Is that bad? If the name is a problem is could be just CST-R1A and CST-M7R or maybe something else.

BTW, my list of train ideas might be in Excel Format but ill provide a png is no one has and versino of MS Excel or Excel Reader

[vidis12]

Hey for train and ship design you can check my post here: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... start=1220 and here: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... &start=320 For more trains you can look at these links: http://www.geocities.com/nastywik/maglev-japan-bg.jpg , http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/art/train460.jpg , http://imagesme.net/tuvie/future-train-concept1.jpg , http://www.vhxn.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... train3.jpg , http://www.railway-technology.com/proje ... velaro.jpg , http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... LX01-2.jpg , some links for the planes: http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resourc ... rplane.jpg , http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Comp ... andard.jpg , http://mrbarlow.files.wordpress.com/200 ... -plane.jpg , http://www.freewebs.com/futurecities/Mo ... 0Plane.bmp. That should keep you busy for a little while.

[michael blunck]

This isn´t "future" at all but highly conventional:

Speed : 280 Km\h
Power : 3,200 HP
Designed : 2012

Speed : 315 Km\h
Designed : 2018

Maybe it escaped your attention that there are already faster and more powerful trains since decades?

Electric - Fastest but Not As powerful
Diesel - Would Provide the Most power but the Least Speed

Even in the "future" this will be as unrealistic as it is today. Electric drive offers the most power at all, for single locomotives it´s in the 9000 hp area, and modern EMUs often offer a total power of more than 10,000 hp.

OTOH, even modern diesels (with asynchronous AC drives) offer significantly less power, simply because it has to be generated "on-board" but maximum allowable axle weight puts a limit to it, whereas electrics get as much power they need via the catenary system. And BTW, speed is depending from gearing, i.e. only because being a "diesel" doesn´t mean to be inevitably slower. In fact, the only disadvantage of electric traction is the initial cost of catenary. However, with even higher prizes for diesel fuel this drawback will quickly fade away, and even today it´s not in existence in many parts of the world where the main railway lines are already electrified.

Gas Turbine

Had been experimented with in the past and found totally unsuitable for the needs of railway usage. Will not be used "in the future" again for sure.

Attachments:

These look quite outdated (1980s) but not "futuristic" (whatever this means).

Camasutra

Well, at least the brand name is slightly interesting, but also not very futuristic either, given an age of almost 2000 years of the real thing. Maybe it would be an idea to make your trains 7 parts, according to the 7 parts of the original.

regards
Michael

[Badger]

How is it possible that people forgot the topic about backseat moderating? If you have a problem with the spelling in a post, report the post. That goes for everyone that reacted in this topic, sadly.

Maybe its a case that the "TTDPatch Moderators" list should be altered? Patchman isn't here very often, Csaboka has left the forums for now, which just leaves Lakie.

[ISA]

How is it possible that people forgot the topic about backseat moderating? If you have a problem with the spelling in a post, report the post. That goes for everyone that reacted in this topic, sadly.

Maybe its a case that the "TTDPatch Moderators" list should be altered? Patchman isn't here very often, Csaboka has left the forums for now, which just leaves Lakie.

What about DaleStan

[Lakie]

How is it possible that people forgot the topic about backseat moderating? If you have a problem with the spelling in a post, report the post. That goes for everyone that reacted in this topic, sadly.

Maybe its a case that the "TTDPatch Moderators" list should be altered? Patchman isn't here very often, Csaboka has left the forums for now, which just leaves Lakie.

You are forgetting about the Global moderators who also help sort out the reports in this section.

~ Lakie