If a tree falls in the forest...(and more philosophy)

Train-a-Mania · Post by **Train-a-Mania** » 21 Apr 2006 16:17

...and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

I want to see what others think before I give my opinion.

DeletedUser21 · Post by **DeletedUser21** » 21 Apr 2006 16:19

It certainly makes noise, there is just no receiver to notice it.

Piotrekjjj · Post by **Piotrekjjj** » 21 Apr 2006 16:29

Yes, but on the other hand, how can you know if it makes a sound? Maybe it's making a sound only if somebody is around

Well, if there's nobody to notice it, then... damned, I lost myself. Never mind

Saibot · Post by **Saibot** » 21 Apr 2006 16:49

Well, it's quite obvious that it makes the same amount of noice as it would if someone was around to hear it.
Why would it not make a sound just because nobody is there to hear it?

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 21 Apr 2006 16:51

the marvelles of philosophy. Based on past experience I think everybody is tempted to say it would although everyone recognises it's not a 'watertight reasoning'. If you look at the scientific part of the lemma you posted the answer would clearly be 'Yes' though.

lws1984 · Post by **lws1984** » 21 Apr 2006 17:07

Well, you could always put up a microphone, then there won't be anyone around!

Seriously, anything as big as a tree is going to make enough sound vibrations whether someone hears it or not.

TheGrew · Post by **TheGrew** » 21 Apr 2006 17:23

Because sound is actuly vibrations (which our ear drum turns into sound) And by falling the tree is obviously going to make vibrations because when it hits the earth vibrations will be created therefore yes it would make a sound.

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 21 Apr 2006 17:34

The far more interesting question, however, is what is the sound of one hand clapping?

SpComb · Post by **SpComb** » 21 Apr 2006 17:41

If a stealth bomber crashes in a forest, does it make a sound?

AndersI · Post by **AndersI** » 21 Apr 2006 18:10

Patchman wrote:The far more interesting question, however, is what is the sound of one hand clapping?

There was a famous Swedish discus thrower that could clap very load with one hand. I can also produce sound with one hand only...

DominionSpy · Post by **DominionSpy** » 21 Apr 2006 18:13

alistairgrew wrote:Because sound is actuly vibrations (which our ear drum turns into sound) And by falling the tree is obviously going to make vibrations because when it hits the earth vibrations will be created therefore yes it would make a sound.

The most sensible answer.

TheGrew · Post by **TheGrew** » 21 Apr 2006 18:13

Thank you

DeletedUser21 · Post by **DeletedUser21** » 21 Apr 2006 18:32

Patchman wrote:The far more interesting question, however, is what is the sound of one hand clapping?

That depends on what you hit with that one hand.

Post by **Chrill** » 21 Apr 2006 19:03

Mr. X wrote:
Patchman wrote:The far more interesting question, however, is what is the sound of one hand clapping?
That depends on what you hit with that one hand.

Just shut the hand quickly

XeryusTC · Post by **XeryusTC** » 21 Apr 2006 19:06

The real question:
What came first, the egg or the chicken?

Post by **Chrill** » 21 Apr 2006 19:07

They came at the same time. Cus if I say that, I´m both right and wrong

DeletedUser21 · Post by **DeletedUser21** » 21 Apr 2006 21:18

Ah! Classic, I think the chicken came first, in the evolutionary process it became an animal to lay eggs (probably from it's reptillian counterpart right before the '65mil.-years-ago-accident'. So I think the ancestor of the chicken inherited the ability to lay eggs in order to have a way of reproducing it self.

Samwise · Post by **Samwise** » 21 Apr 2006 21:28

Mr. X wrote:Ah! Classic, I think the chicken came first, in the evolutionary process it became an animal to lay eggs (probably from it's reptillian counterpart right before the '65mil.-years-ago-accident'. So I think the ancestor of the chicken inherited the ability to lay eggs in order to have a way of reproducing it self.

I agree with Mr.X, I mean, why should suddently an egg appear in the middle of nowhere? I think it must have been an animal that first only could get alive children and then slowly changed to an egg laying chicken. Maybe he did that evolution cuz he new that the people 65 mil. years later would love them

Note: think about the half of the progres.. both laying eggs AND getting alive babies.. lol..

chazz · Post by **chazz** » 21 Apr 2006 21:41

But who appeared first - man or woman?

/chazz

Prof. Frink · Post by **Prof. Frink** » 21 Apr 2006 21:45

Mr. X wrote:Ah! Classic, I think the chicken came first, in the evolutionary process it became an animal to lay eggs (probably from it's reptillian counterpart right before the '65mil.-years-ago-accident'. So I think the ancestor of the chicken inherited the ability to lay eggs in order to have a way of reproducing it self.

So where did those reptilian ancestors hatch from?

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