2 way teminus station problem
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2 way teminus station problem
Hi all, excelent work on getting me addicted to OpenTTD ^_^
i normaly build stations with a 1 way track in mind, works a treat, but takes up far too much space. The solution finaly struck me, use a terminus station, with a 2 way track system. at first i built it with normal signals and a waiting bay area, i was having the same troubles im getting now, so i thought pre signals would work, it took quite a bit of experimenting before i gave up.. im pretty sure the system i have is logical.. the occuring problem is visible both ends of the waiting bay. Other than there being too many trains on the track could someone point out what's being done wrong?
ps. im not sure if this is ment to be posted here, or in the problems board.
cheers
i normaly build stations with a 1 way track in mind, works a treat, but takes up far too much space. The solution finaly struck me, use a terminus station, with a 2 way track system. at first i built it with normal signals and a waiting bay area, i was having the same troubles im getting now, so i thought pre signals would work, it took quite a bit of experimenting before i gave up.. im pretty sure the system i have is logical.. the occuring problem is visible both ends of the waiting bay. Other than there being too many trains on the track could someone point out what's being done wrong?
ps. im not sure if this is ment to be posted here, or in the problems board.
cheers
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thanks, but alas that page doesnt help me. i've been through most of the train related wiki pages, going by what the signals page was telling me about pre-signals, all my set ups should have worked (except the station at the other end of the track in the pic as that was missing 2 bits of track >_<)
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tbh i don't really see what's your problem here
the simpliest terminus with presignals would be like the one in my screenshot
the simpliest terminus with presignals would be like the one in my screenshot
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the problem was that the trains kept sitting in the cross over paths blocking the way, but thanks to you ive got the system very much sorted
i copyed the one in your pic and then expanded it into this new pic. now to work on expanding it even more.
edit: added a pic of an even larger version for those interested.

edit: added a pic of an even larger version for those interested.
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You need PBS for your initial setup to work, or at least get rid of the level crossover.
Why do you need so much parallel tracks for trains to sit on? Each junction allows only one train to be on it at a given point in time. IMO, two tracks for trains to wait on, and one to leave the station would do just fine.
Why do you need so much parallel tracks for trains to sit on? Each junction allows only one train to be on it at a given point in time. IMO, two tracks for trains to wait on, and one to leave the station would do just fine.
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It was an experiment to see if i could get a terminus station of this variant built for a busy network. While i agree just the parallel tracks alone is enough for a not so busy track, one would need more to cut down congestion when busy, which works.
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I've got a pretty nice solution for multiple tracks terminus station
gonna make soms screens of it now 
EDIT: One layout submitted, but I've made some others over time as well, gonna test them now to see if they are perhaps better. For now, layout 1 allows for trains to enter and leave the station at the same time, and in a city (like in the screen) the city can still grow in the direction of the railroads, because of the tunnels. This system can also be very easily lenghtened to a more suited lenght for a longer station (just make sure the area between the 'combined signals' is just as long, or longer as the station, otherwise it won't work properly
EDIT: Added another layout, basicly pretty much the same, although now it is the exiting line using tunnels..... used this one for a pretty long time allready, and just now I see it's basicly the same as the other one
Only in this case I builded him way bigger then I had ever done, more, and longer tracks.


EDIT: One layout submitted, but I've made some others over time as well, gonna test them now to see if they are perhaps better. For now, layout 1 allows for trains to enter and leave the station at the same time, and in a city (like in the screen) the city can still grow in the direction of the railroads, because of the tunnels. This system can also be very easily lenghtened to a more suited lenght for a longer station (just make sure the area between the 'combined signals' is just as long, or longer as the station, otherwise it won't work properly
EDIT: Added another layout, basicly pretty much the same, although now it is the exiting line using tunnels..... used this one for a pretty long time allready, and just now I see it's basicly the same as the other one

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Re: 2 way teminus station problem
Osai made quite a pretty efficient one and here are the tutorials for it:
http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog/2007/10 ... -tutorial/
http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog/2007/11 ... s-station/
Hope they are of some help.
http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog/2007/10 ... -tutorial/
http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog/2007/11 ... s-station/
Hope they are of some help.
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all very nice stations, and look like their very efficiant
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It's exactly what the #OpenttdCoop try to achieve. If you look at their public server current and archived games there are some really good things. They also have a guide section to advanced building.
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