SuperSizing maps

metalangel · Post by **metalangel** » 01 Jan 2006 13:41

Atari aren't generous like that, and CS doesn't give a toss.

Post by **Chrill** » 01 Jan 2006 13:49

stafis wrote:well - if you want to mod then you have to be in a country where the EULA is invalid, like sweden...
here in sweden it is not posible to ad clauses to a contract after the time of purchase... - I have to buy the box, then brak the seal (so I can't return it) to read the EULA - therefore it is invalid here in sweden...

- so other than standard copyright issues (witch I have to admit is tricky enough in themselves) - the EULA is just a piece of paper that I can ignore...

So if i knew how to mod this, I could do it without getting Atari after me?

WWW · Post by **WWW** » 01 Jan 2006 15:47

chrillDevil wrote:
stafis wrote:well - if you want to mod then you have to be in a country where the EULA is invalid, like sweden...
here in sweden it is not posible to ad clauses to a contract after the time of purchase... - I have to buy the box, then brak the seal (so I can't return it) to read the EULA - therefore it is invalid here in sweden...

- so other than standard copyright issues (witch I have to admit is tricky enough in themselves) - the EULA is just a piece of paper that I can ignore...
So if i knew how to mod this, I could do it without getting Atari after me?

Codeing party at chrilldevil's house!

Post by **Chrill** » 01 Jan 2006 16:17

I don´t know how to do. Any1 wanna come to Stockholm?

Immow · Post by **Immow** » 03 Jan 2006 20:28

probably here posible too in NL

(moderating that game with no legal hasle)

JonnyRocks · Post by **JonnyRocks** » 03 Jan 2006 20:48

The way I see it, you can download the game off the internet (not that I have) for free, and that hasn't been stopped, so how do they stop someone from editing the .exe? I bet someone has done it, without sharing it

Bad Hair Day · Post by **Bad Hair Day** » 03 Jan 2006 21:25

But what if you got the game without the EULA? (e.g. , you downloaded it)

No EULA came with it so you can do whatever the hell you like to it!

chevyrider · Post by **chevyrider** » 03 Jan 2006 23:38

2-10-0 wrote:But what if you got the game without the EULA? (e.g. , you downloaded it)

No EULA came with it so you can do whatever the hell you like to it!

Downloading is illigal, youknow that.

WWW · Post by **WWW** » 04 Jan 2006 10:03

I wrote:
hmm, for starters, does chris know of the ttdpatch etc? Considering CS is pissed at Atari for not paying him, how much would he care if we broke the EULA, heck, Atari should be happy that we are (trying to) keep their game alive
/Me checks install
/me finds loophole
Right, I run setup, it welcomes me into the program, no mention of EULA yet, I enter my cd-key, no mention of EULA choose a path, no mention of EULA, hit next and the install begins.
I didn't have to tick a box to show I agree to eula, or anything else that you expect
Will someone else check?
___________________________________
read this post, that's how I see it, and I bought the game legaly

Visscher · Post by **Visscher** » 04 Jan 2006 10:36

chevyrider wrote:
2-10-0 wrote:But what if you got the game without the EULA? (e.g. , you downloaded it)

No EULA came with it so you can do whatever the hell you like to it!
Downloading is illigal, youknow that.

I thought downloading was't illegal, i thought only uploading was illigal.

glenndeman · Post by **glenndeman** » 06 Jan 2006 12:12

www wrote:I wrote:
hmm, for starters, does chris know of the ttdpatch etc? Considering CS is pissed at Atari for not paying him, how much would he care if we broke the EULA, heck, Atari should be happy that we are (trying to) keep their game alive
/Me checks install
/me finds loophole
Right, I run setup, it welcomes me into the program, no mention of EULA yet, I enter my cd-key, no mention of EULA choose a path, no mention of EULA, hit next and the install begins.
I didn't have to tick a box to show I agree to eula, or anything else that you expect
Will someone else check?

I installed LoMo yesterday, no need to check a box to agree to EULA.

Post by **Chrill** » 06 Jan 2006 13:44

Visscher wrote:
chevyrider wrote:
2-10-0 wrote:But what if you got the game without the EULA? (e.g. , you downloaded it)

No EULA came with it so you can do whatever the hell you like to it!
Downloading is illigal, youknow that.
I thought downloading was't illegal, i thought only uploading was illigal.

That was how it was here before, but now downloading is illegal too

WWW · Post by **WWW** » 06 Jan 2006 13:49

can't see anything in the maual about it...

MjD · Post by **MjD** » 06 Jan 2006 14:15

www wrote:can't see anything in the maual about it...

If you read page 8 of the manual... " The Chris Sawyer's Locomotion CD-ROM has a ReadME file that includers the License Agreement and up-to-date information about the game.........

BUT, in the readme file there is no mention of there being a license agreement. Does anyone know if this means that the game shipped without a EULA then?

kazimierz · Post by **kazimierz** » 13 Feb 2006 17:58

So.. With a conclusion of the EULA hassle..

It's not legal to modify.. How can we do it illegally then, in a personal way?

Donkervuur · Post by **Donkervuur** » 13 Feb 2006 18:20

Wasn't downloading legal when you have the original game already?
Not that that would make sence, downloading a game when you have it but wasn't that the rule?

Davie_UCF · Post by **Davie_UCF** » 14 Apr 2006 14:27

I always thought it would be okay to edit stuff for your own personal use.

But that only applies to certain things I suppose. I do wish someone would fix it for big maps. I mean it would almost be doing CS A favour in fixing the game, keeping it more playable.. making it better.. I can't see how he'd care, it doesn't make much difference to him or Atari does it?

Anyway aren't some people using NoCD cracks so they don't have to use the CD constantly or to get over some errors where it says you don't have the original cd (Read in another thread) and isn't a NoCD crack an edit of the exe anyway?

I guess noone will do it

David

Edit: Didn't realise this thread was a bit old (bit)

Plastikman · Post by **Plastikman** » 14 Apr 2006 17:24

Davie_UCF wrote:I always thought it would be okay to edit stuff for your own personal use. ......

Anyway aren't some people using NoCD cracks so they don't have to use the CD constantly or to get over some errors where it says you don't have the original cd (Read in another thread) and isn't a NoCD crack an edit of the exe anyway?

editing stuff for your own use is differant then distributing it.....

technically NO-CD cracks are a violation of EULA's and are technically illegal because it is a distribution of alterd copywrited material and promotes piracy (thats is why talking about NoCD patches is not allowed on the forum).

Personally i own the game and the first thing i did when i got it was copy the CD, store my original and get a no cd patch. i play on a laptop all over the country, i refuse to bring my original CD's on the road with me. i just carry a dvd-rw with the instal and all mods on it. so, yes i am still breaking the law even when i payed for the game. will atari come after me for that? probably not. (as far as i know you are allowed by law to make one copy of games and dvd's for yourself the NoDC patch is the only way to do that, that might be why they are not getting arrested).

If i start changing the EXE so you can have larger maps and then post the EXE for you to download, will atari came after then? i would bet money on it...

IF someone else posted the exe for me to download with mods in it like a bigger map would i download it? heck yes!

soo... the moral of the story is.. umm.. there is no moral. i want bigger maps!!!!

Bad Hair Day · Post by **Bad Hair Day** » 14 Apr 2006 17:32

No, the moral is, if you can mod, do mod. *begs*

Beesty · Post by **Beesty** » 14 Apr 2006 21:47

At least a mod for bigger maps would be a usefull download .. instead of some free train while we (the coders anyway, thanks btw for that!

) can and may create as many trains we want.
... While modding the exe isn't allowed .. but forget about an update/patch/download from CS or Atari for this!

Too bad

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