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Can't you do like MB's new station an on platform and seperate version?

You could do a Eindhovne overtracks and a seperate building.
The Type Douma would also be nice as a seperate building.

Sextant, isn't looking correct, but i think it is already in the set (Not sure)

A amsterdam Sloterdijk roof (the elevated tracks) or Leiden roof would be awsome. They are cool modern stations
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Emperor Jake wrote:will the eventual overhaul of the stations set include people on the platforms?
In my mind it will :)
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jor[D]1 wrote: Can't you do like MB's new station an on platform and seperate version?
Graphics-wise, these are the same. The non-track versions just got 3 pixel wide platform extensions added, front and back.

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jor[D]1 wrote:Can't you do like MB's new station an on platform and seperate version?

You could do a Eindhovne overtracks and a seperate building.
The Type Douma would also be nice as a seperate building.

Sextant, isn't looking correct, but i think it is already in the set (Not sure)

A amsterdam Sloterdijk roof (the elevated tracks) or Leiden roof would be awsome. They are cool modern stations
I made two different versions for eindhoven, one on and one off track, see below.

Sextant remains work in progress for now. Cant figure out yet how to do good looking sextant isometric... There is a station which seems to have a sextant as a part of it in the set. But in there its a square.

I'm looking into doing a couple of modern stations. Leiden is an option, but so are the generic randstadrail stations...
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FooBar wrote:
Emperor Jake wrote:will the eventual overhaul of the stations set include people on the platforms?
In my mind it will :)
Would be cool... One thing at the time :D (Are there any other newgrf stations with passengers on it besides the japan set? Want to check out how they did it....)
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michael blunck wrote:
jor[D]1 wrote: Can't you do like MB's new station an on platform and seperate version?
Graphics-wise, these are the same. The non-track versions just got 3 pixel wide platform extensions added, front and back.

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Yeah I was looking at that. Works very well and fairly simple to design. (Love the little stairs as details on the non-track versions btw)
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Eindhoven Central Station: Raised a bit so trains can actually pass under. Also made a non-track version.

This will be the last one I post for a couple of weeks (thanksgiving weekend is over....) But i'll be back :D

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I believe the Canadian Stations Set also show passengers. Some of them certainly change graphics in response to waiting cargo, such as the car parks.
I think there's also a part of the CS Stations set that does something similar, but I've never been able to get the third CS Stations grf to load, and I suspect it's in that one.
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Wow, that eindhovne looks great. The nontrack version would also suit a Terminus station very well.
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Awesome stuff in here. Do you have the workfile I orignally worked with, including all kind of parts for stations, split up, like benches, trashbins, shelters, etc.?
ths wrote:As for the size, I tried to keep it roughly in size with the stations, trains and platforms in the dutch train and station set. Compared to Hilversum especially, I dont think this should be bigger.
I'm very unexperienced with drawing buildings and stations. Don't use my old Hilversum-sprites as your 'holy' reference :P The scale of Hilversum may be incorrect.
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That Eindhoven station looks very good indeed. Reminds me of the old Canadian Station Set, same high quality level.
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ths wrote:Eindhoven Central Station
Mostly looks the part, but:
- the wall parts between the windows are a little dark, no real masonry there
- roof much too curved
- pillars too wide?
No time to correct.
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Purno wrote:Awesome stuff in here. Do you have the workfile I orignally worked with, including all kind of parts for stations, split up, like benches, trashbins, shelters, etc.?
ths wrote:As for the size, I tried to keep it roughly in size with the stations, trains and platforms in the dutch train and station set. Compared to Hilversum especially, I dont think this should be bigger.
I'm very unexperienced with drawing buildings and stations. Don't use my old Hilversum-sprites as your 'holy' reference :P The scale of Hilversum may be incorrect.

I dont have your original work sheet, however I am using the sprite sheet that is in the repository, so I'm cutting platforms and benches and such out of those. If you still have that work sheet, I would love to have them, to save me some time.

Hilversum is not holy by any means (went to school there for a while). However, scale wise I think your station is a pretty good reference. I think delft, eindhoven and the doumas are now roughly scale consistent. This scale would however mean that if I get to make an Amsterdam CS for example, (or Groningen etc) that would have to be a seven tile station building. So I'd guess that would be only used for very large city stations, but that sort of makes sense too.
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lobster wrote:That Eindhoven station looks very good indeed. Reminds me of the old Canadian Station Set, same high quality level.
Thanks very much!
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oberhümer wrote:
ths wrote:Eindhoven Central Station
Mostly looks the part, but:
- the wall parts between the windows are a little dark, no real masonry there
- roof much too curved
- pillars too wide?
No time to correct.
Yes, I've got to admit some creative liberties have been taken.

Thanks for your comments. I have to tweak the design a little anyway, so I'll keep them in mind, but by making the walls between the windows a two pixel line (dark and light) they get a bit more accentuated thus creating more depth in the front. Brightening it up makes it look flatter and less interesting, and I feel like that makes it lose the character of the building... The roof is too curved, I might try to tone that down a little, however the perspective of TTD sprites with this scale only allow for certain curved angles. Toning it down proved difficult, so far.... Finally I ended up widening the pillars after the initial drawing, because with smaller ones it felt like the building was going to topple over any second...
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The Standard Douma I posted a little while back was in fact a "Simple Standard Douma". Decided to make its bigger brother, the standard Douma as well. Both off and on tracks. Im currently considering making a third and fourth view for both these standard stations as well, after playing around with them in game. (Quast has been so kind as to code the stations for me, and playing around with them made me recognize quite a few tweaks that still need to be done before we can start thinking about an additional dutch station set release)

Anyways, let me know what u guys think.
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ths wrote:
Purno wrote:Awesome stuff in here. Do you have the workfile I orignally worked with, including all kind of parts for stations, split up, like benches, trashbins, shelters, etc.?
ths wrote:As for the size, I tried to keep it roughly in size with the stations, trains and platforms in the dutch train and station set. Compared to Hilversum especially, I dont think this should be bigger.
I'm very unexperienced with drawing buildings and stations. Don't use my old Hilversum-sprites as your 'holy' reference :P The scale of Hilversum may be incorrect.

I dont have your original work sheet, however I am using the sprite sheet that is in the repository, so I'm cutting platforms and benches and such out of those. If you still have that work sheet, I would love to have them, to save me some time.
http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=96878

Not sure this is the latest though, but it's the largest one I can find in my attachments, and I'm pretty sure I don't have a local copy anymore :P
Hilversum is not holy by any means (went to school there for a while). However, scale wise I think your station is a pretty good reference. I think delft, eindhoven and the doumas are now roughly scale consistent. This scale would however mean that if I get to make an Amsterdam CS for example, (or Groningen etc) that would have to be a seven tile station building. So I'd guess that would be only used for very large city stations, but that sort of makes sense too.
Well, thanks for your positive words on Hilversum. It's not really a charming station, but that may be because of the original station's architecture. It makes sense that stations like Amsterdam and Groningen may end up being 7 tiles long (and perhaps 2 tiles wide?). For stations of such a size, I don't think that hurts. A variety between tiny, small, medium, large and huge stations is good.



Any chance you'd take requests for station-drawing in consideration? :mrgreen:
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Yes, I like to decorate my cities with large station buildings :D
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ths wrote:Thanks very much!
No, thank you!
ths wrote:Hilversum is not holy by any means (went to school there for a while).
Hilversum is a s*** of the worst kind. I know, I've been living there for the past 7-ish years after attending the HKU here. Still, I'm very glad with the Hilversum in-game station building we currently have. Also the Culemborg building, I'm afraid I had a bit of influence on the choice for both. :)

Another interesting thing is the new (upcoming) Utrecht CS. Are there any plans for that one?
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lobster wrote:Still, I'm very glad with the Hilversum in-game station building we currently have. Also the Culemborg building, I'm afraid I had a bit of influence on the choice for both. :)
Since I've been transferring at Hilversum for years, I decided to draw that station. I doubt your influence was as big as you think ;)
Another interesting thing is the new (upcoming) Utrecht CS. Are there any plans for that one?
Aye, platform roofs, based upon concept-art available at the time, are already in a set, but probably need an update. The rest of the new Utrecht Centraal they're building ATM is probably interesting as well.

And since lobster started making requests, so shall I :mrgreen:
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