ECS vectors v1.1.2 (by George) 19/06/2011

[George]

I just stumbled over a small inconvenience in the wording:
http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/ECS_Town_Ve ... sts_centre

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Cargo waiting to be processed
XXX tourists ...

Might be a bit unfortunate wording and now that it struck me (I didn't really noticed before) reminds me somewhat of some novels by Orwell...

I suppose you have the idea about how it can be changed?

No, I didn't. But maybe...

Do you mean changing STR_INDUSTRY_VIEW_WAITING_FOR_PROCESSING or you know how to change it for specific industry?

[planetmaker]

Do you mean changing STR_INDUSTRY_VIEW_WAITING_FOR_PROCESSING or you know how to change it for specific industry?

Oh... those are game-defined strings - I wasn't aware of that and assumed that they were provided by the extra string one can provide

You can't change openttd-specific strings, of course - nor do I see a way currently to supress that, it's tied to the callbacks CBM_IND_PRODUCTION_CARGO_ARRIVAL and CBM_IND_PRODUCTION_256_TICKS (bits 1 and 2 of the callback flags) and changing that... is much more lengthy, especially as it works fine for all cargos except when it's people.

Don't mind my suggestion / complaint in this case

[George]

Do you mean changing STR_INDUSTRY_VIEW_WAITING_FOR_PROCESSING or you know how to change it for specific industry?

Oh... those are game-defined strings - I wasn't aware of that and assumed that they were provided by the extra string one can provide
You can't change openttd-specific strings, of course - nor do I see a way currently to supress that, it's tied to the callbacks CBM_IND_PRODUCTION_CARGO_ARRIVAL and CBM_IND_PRODUCTION_256_TICKS (bits 1 and 2 of the callback flags) and changing that... is much more lengthy, especially as it works fine for all cargos except when it's people.
Don't mind my suggestion / complaint in this case

May be you should report it on http://bugs.openttd.org ?

[Eddi]

Do you mean changing STR_INDUSTRY_VIEW_WAITING_FOR_PROCESSING or you know how to change it for specific industry?

Oh... those are game-defined strings - I wasn't aware of that and assumed that they were provided by the extra string one can provide

You can't change openttd-specific strings, of course - nor do I see a way currently to supress that, it's tied to the callbacks CBM_IND_PRODUCTION_CARGO_ARRIVAL and CBM_IND_PRODUCTION_256_TICKS (bits 1 and 2 of the callback flags) and changing that... is much more lengthy, especially as it works fine for all cargos except when it's people.

Don't mind my suggestion / complaint in this case

i think there should be a way to suppress this altogether, like with FIRS supplies, the given data makes absolutely no sense.

[budgie2011]

I'm not going to post this a bug report because I think there is too much play testing and competent programming displayed here to allow that to happen.

Rather I assume I am doing something wrong and request guidence.

I have just upgraded to the ECS Vectors v1.1.2 on openttd 1.1.1.

Running only the ECS sets in the order town,basic,houses,agr,chem,con,mach,wood all jun2011 releases except the construction vector which did not seem to be updated.

The games crashes consistantly on load during map generation.

This error does not seem to happen on the 2009 ecs vectors using openttd v1.1.1

windows error message is "not reached at line 296 of . . . \src\newgrf_txt.cpp.

I do not have the skills to hack, modify or play with the settings and although I am listed as a NEW furom user that is due to losing my initial very old registered user name .

I've been playing ttd and openttd (20 years or so now) since it came out , it is my favorite game and George's creation/modifaction turned my all time favorite into the best dam game on the planet bar none.

So . . . gentleman! Your expertise and assistance is kindly requested

Budgie

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*** OpenTTD Crash Report ***

Crash at: Wed Aug 10 02:50:10 2011
In game date: 1940-01-01 (0)

Crash reason:
Exception: E1212012
Location: 7C812AFB
Message: NOT_REACHED triggered at line 296 of ..\src\newgrf_text.cpp

OpenTTD version:
Version: 1.1.1 (0)
NewGRF ver: 11185800
Bits: 32
Endian: little
Dedicated: no
Build date: May 31 2011 19:54:29


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---- gamelog start ----
Tick 0: new game started
Revision text changed to 1.1.1, savegame version 160, not modified, _openttd_newgrf_version = 0x11185800
New game mode: 1 landscape: 0
Added NewGRF: GRF ID 4D656F91, checksum 937BA8D623EC2298B8B703EB183B2587, filename: ecs_town_vector-1.1.219jun2011\ecstown.grf (md5sum matches)
Added NewGRF: GRF ID 4D656F9F, checksum C3C038168C5E7273BD17D833C353E35B, filename: ecs_basic_vector_ii-1.1.219jun2011\ecsbas2.grf (md5sum matches)
Added NewGRF: GRF ID 4D656F9D, checksum A4D9273D4C56BD2432E8994B95652D65, filename: ecs_houses-1.1.219jun2011\ecshouse.grf (md5sum matches)
Added NewGRF: GRF ID 4D656F97, checksum EDD51D4944C05B7C07872D68B0373069, filename: ecs_agricultural_vector-1.1.219jun2011\ecsagri.grf (md5sum matches)
Added NewGRF: GRF ID 4D656F9C, checksum 1F6B20372197A5E937F1AE434ED0C2FA, filename: ecs_chemical_vector_ii-1.1.219jun2011\ecschem2.grf (md5sum matches)
Added NewGRF: GRF ID 4D656F96, checksum 682C2B4B460032782186BF03AE2C156C, filename: ecs_construction_vector-b527dec2010\ecsconstw.grf (md5sum matches)
Added NewGRF: GRF ID 4D656F94, checksum A6BC43D8CF1F931FAB6955CEC6DE7F19, filename: ecs_machinery_vector-1.1.219jun2011\ecsmach.grf (md5sum matches)
Added NewGRF: GRF ID 4D656F95, checksum CD1F5F59485681A857648BE5322EDCE8, filename: ecs_wood_vector-1.1.219jun2011\ecswood.grf (md5sum matches)
---- gamelog end ----

*** End of OpenTTD Crash Report ***

Decoded stack trace:
[00] ??? 0x7C812AFB tá—|RaiseException + 82
[01] ??? 0x005588A5
[02] ??? 0x0062A6F0
[03] ??? 0x0042C0B5
[04] ??? 0x0053ABFC
[05] ??? 0x0053B701
[06] ??? 0x0053BC0C
[07] ??? 0x005289C6
[08] ??? 0x0052D214
[09] ??? 0x0052D3D5
[10] ??? 0x0052DD6D
[11] ??? 0x004199AF
[12] ??? 0x004199FA
[13] ??? 0x0042D113
[14] ??? 0x0042DBBA

*** End of additional info ***

[Alberth]

I tried to reproduce this issue, and failed.
Map generation in 1940, using 1.1.1 and that exact list of newgrfs works flawlessly.
(although I think you need at least a vehicle grf or vehicle adaption grf to enable transport of all cargoes).

[Rubidium]

I think the language that causes the crash is the important factor for reproduction, which is in the bit of the crash log that has been cut out.

[frosch]

@budgie2011:
For now, just make sure that "hungarian.lng" is present in the correct folder; even if you are not using Hungarian.

[Brumi]

I've done the Hungarian translation of the ECS vectors this summer...

Did I do something wrong?
Just for the record, two strings have the same ID in the latest version, so this causes some problems, but I didn't experience a crash. I was late to report this problem for the latest release, but it's already corrected on the ECS Translations page, so it will be OK in the next release.

[planetmaker]

I've done the Hungarian translation of the ECS vectors this summer...

Did I do something wrong?

No, you didn't. The problem is in OpenTTD that in the absence of a hungarian language file, the gender or cases which are used within the translation as found in the ECS vectors become somewhat invalid. This is normally not a problem as OpenTTD gets delivered with those lang files, but it becomes a problem when people delete the lang files which they "don't need" (here the hungarian one) in order to save about 5 Megabytes (size of one MP3 song) on their 2 Terrabyte hard disk.

[budgie2011]

I think the language that causes the crash is the important factor for reproduction, which is in the bit of the crash log that has been cut out.

Thanks for looking at this guys . Sry to not post compllete crash log wanted to keep my post short.

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complete log as follows . . .




*** OpenTTD Crash Report ***

Crash at: Wed Aug 10 03:38:39 2011
In game date: 1940-01-01 (0)

Crash reason:
Exception: E1212012
Location: 7C812AFB
Message: NOT_REACHED triggered at line 296 of ..\src\newgrf_text.cpp

OpenTTD version:
Version: 1.1.1 (0)
NewGRF ver: 11185800
Bits: 32
Endian: little
Dedicated: no
Build date: May 31 2011 19:54:29

Registers:
EAX: 0012F448 EBX: 00000016 ECX: 00000000 EDX: 00BAD128
ESI: 00000000 EDI: 00000000 EBP: 0012F498 ESP: 0012F444
EIP: 7C812AFB EFLAGS: 00000246

Bytes at instruction pointer:
5E C9 C2 10 00 85 FF 0F 8E 36 93 FF FF 8B 55 FC 89 55 0C 0F B7 16 8B 7D

Stack trace:
00BAD048 E1212012 00000000 00000000 7C812AFB 00000000 00000001 0012F66F
FFFFFFFF 0000000E 00000040 00000009 00C6E800 7C90D80A 7C9132F0 FFFFFFFF
00000024 0012F494 00000004 00000000 ED97F072 0012F4F8 005588A5 E1212012
00000000 00000000 00000000 0062B2B6 00000016 97010932 0012F840 00000200
0000E030 7C9132F0 FFFFFFFF 00000000 0012F4E0 00558895 00000001 0012F4B8
0012F060 0012FB58 00631600 97ABD872 FFFFFFFE 0012F830 0062A6F0 00000016
00000200 0062BC99 0012F558 00B90718 011C2DE0 0063E5CD 00000000 FFFFFFEA
0012F7B4 00634717 00000000 0012F840 0012F840 006347A3 776F6E6B 69202C6E
00000000 00000007 0012FB4C 00631600 00000000 00B90718 011C2DE0 011C1E90
00B8F901 0012F7D8 00000000 00000000 00000000 00B14DDA 00000000 00000000
00000000 011C74C8 0000003B 0012FA58 00000016 00B6D434 FFFFFFFF 00C50500
00000000 0000002A 00410BDF 00000000 0000000F 5F736365 6E776F74 6365765F
2D726F74 2E312E31 6A393132 30326E75 655C3131 6F747363 672E6E77 7C006672
7C918B7B 00000000 0000000F 5F736365 46363139 00000010 0012F78C 00000000
7E42934B 00000010 0012F78C 00000000 00B6D5D0 0012F608 0012FAA4 0012FB58
7E44048F 7E429350 00005C00 0012F780 7E43A2BC 0012F78C 0012F840 00000200
7E43A2D6 00000001 0012F668 00B6AD38 00000000 00D40850 0012F6D0 00000400
00000008 00000000 00000000 7E4120EC 00000000 00000001 0012F6C0 0012F69C
0062ADF0 0012F6A4 0062ADF0 0012F6D0 00000400 00B6AD38 00000000 0012FAE0
0012FAD4 004373F5 0012F6D0 00000400 00B6AD38 0012FAE0 005207B6 00B6AD38
0012FAE0 0000DCF8 0251F00E 74616546 4E657275 614E7765 203A656D 43447830
3C203846 9EC3202D 149A82EE 109A82EE 72757401 C3747369 82EE74A1 7554119A
74736972 9A82EE61 6E610012 67617567 78302065 3A003432 6E614820 6E696C64
63612067 6E6F6974 30783020 6E692034 61747320 35206567 2D2D2D00 2D2D2D2D

Operating system:
Name: Windows
Release: 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 3)
Compiler: MSVC 1500

Configuration:
Blitter: 8bpp-optimized
Graphics set: original_windows (0)
Language: C:\Program Files\OpenTTD\lang\english.lng
Music driver: dmusic
Music set: OpenMSX (96)
Network: no
Sound driver: win32
Sound set: OpenSFX (87)
Video driver: win32

AI Configuration (local: 255):

Libraries:
FreeType: 2.4.4
ICU: 4.4.2
LZMA: 5.0.0
LZO: 2.03
PNG: 1.4.5
Zlib: 1.2.5

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---- gamelog start ----
Tick 0: new game started
Revision text changed to 1.1.1, savegame version 160, not modified, _openttd_newgrf_version = 0x11185800
New game mode: 1 landscape: 0
Added NewGRF: GRF ID 4D656F91, checksum 937BA8D623EC2298B8B703EB183B2587, filename: ecs_town_vector-1.1.219jun2011\ecstown.grf (md5sum matches)
Added NewGRF: GRF ID 4D656F9F, checksum C3C038168C5E7273BD17D833C353E35B, filename: ecs_basic_vector_ii-1.1.219jun2011\ecsbas2.grf (md5sum matches)
Added NewGRF: GRF ID 4D656F9D, checksum A4D9273D4C56BD2432E8994B95652D65, filename: ecs_houses-1.1.219jun2011\ecshouse.grf (md5sum matches)
Added NewGRF: GRF ID 4D656F97, checksum EDD51D4944C05B7C07872D68B0373069, filename: ecs_agricultural_vector-1.1.219jun2011\ecsagri.grf (md5sum matches)
Added NewGRF: GRF ID 4D656F9C, checksum 1F6B20372197A5E937F1AE434ED0C2FA, filename: ecs_chemical_vector_ii-1.1.219jun2011\ecschem2.grf (md5sum matches)
Added NewGRF: GRF ID 4D656F96, checksum 682C2B4B460032782186BF03AE2C156C, filename: ecs_construction_vector-b527dec2010\ecsconstw.grf (md5sum matches)
Added NewGRF: GRF ID 4D656F94, checksum A6BC43D8CF1F931FAB6955CEC6DE7F19, filename: ecs_machinery_vector-1.1.219jun2011\ecsmach.grf (md5sum matches)
Added NewGRF: GRF ID 4D656F95, checksum CD1F5F59485681A857648BE5322EDCE8, filename: ecs_wood_vector-1.1.219jun2011\ecswood.grf (md5sum matches)
---- gamelog end ----

*** End of OpenTTD Crash Report ***

Decoded stack trace:
[00] ??? 0x7C812AFB tá—|RaiseException + 82
[01] ??? 0x005588A5
[02] ??? 0x0062A6F0
[03] ??? 0x0042C0B5
[04] ??? 0x0053ABFC
[05] ??? 0x0053B701
[06] ??? 0x0053BC0C
[07] ??? 0x005289C6
[08] ??? 0x0052D214
[09] ??? 0x0052D3D5
[10] ??? 0x0052DD6D
[11] ??? 0x004199AF
[12] ??? 0x004199FA
[13] ??? 0x0042D113
[14] ??? 0x0042DBBA

*** End of additional info ***



Thanks again everyone.

[budgie2011]

I've done the Hungarian translation of the ECS vectors this summer...

Did I do something wrong?

No, you didn't. The problem is in OpenTTD that in the absence of a hungarian language file, the gender or cases which are used within the translation as found in the ECS vectors become somewhat invalid. This is normally not a problem as OpenTTD gets delivered with those lang files, but it becomes a problem when people delete the lang files which they "don't need" (here the hungarian one) in order to save about 5 Megabytes (size of one MP3 song) on their 2 Terrabyte hard disk.

I run 4 terrabyes Planetmaker - delete nothing .

Wouldn't pretend to know what to delete in the first place without risking a snafu.

Thanks again for your time.

[FooBar]

This is normally not a problem as OpenTTD gets delivered with those lang files, but it becomes a problem when people delete the lang files which they "don't need" (here the hungarian one) in order to save about 5 Megabytes (size of one MP3 song) on their 2 Terrabyte hard disk.

The Windows installer comes with an option not to install the translations.
Plus the fact that each translation comes in it's own file leads to believe that you can safely delete the ones you don't need anyways. At least this is how it works with all other software I know. And yes, 5 MB isn't a lot of space, but still something you don't use needn't eat space IMO.

But given the fact that the installer allows not to install the language files, this is most likely an OpenTTD bug and not a user error. Maybe this can be resolved by letting OpenTTD only process the 7F and the actual selected language from NewGRFs and just skipping all other translations inside NewGRFs. That way it needn't rely on missing language files.

The easy solution of course is to remove the option to not install translations from the installer and adding a note to the readme that language files should not be removed...

EDIT: it appears that it has already been fixed, similar to what I suggested above. This fix is in OpenTTD 1.1.2, which should resolve the problem.

[SwissFan91]

Apologies if I'm being a real idiot here, but do farms in the latest version not have any farm land? Just the farm building?

[as]

Farm land does no appear immediately when the farm is built, but it should start appearing in a couple of months. Also, fields only appear in game, not in scenario editor.

[George]

Farm land does no appear immediately when the farm is built, but it should start appearing in a couple of months.

In spring

[Kooboo]

Hi.

First of all - many thanks for this expansion pack. I'm enjoying it very much.

I'd like to ask few questions since I can't find answer in documentation:

Example: Station supplies Sawmill, but due to irregular trains supplying it it sometimes drops with productivity very low and stops accepting wood (because with productivity level falls maximum capacity of it).

Question: If I force train to unload cargo and leave empty at that station which at the moment doesn't accept wood will I get paid in future and the wood from station will be consumed, when sawmill gets back to it productivity and capacity levels it usually is?

Also - I think productivity levels of industries fluctuate way to much. Sudden drops cause mayhem and disruption in whole network. As of above example:
Drop in productivity in sawmill causes refusal of accepting wood on station, which causes forests to drop on production. Overflowing it with cargo to revive it does little good, wood product trains leave very late as well causing paper mills having huge drops (and not accepting wood products and refined products) which cause printing works and refineries to drop (and not accept paper and dyes) which cause chemical plants and oil fields to drop. I know it's sort of realistic way, but it's really hard to balance. The worst part are those 75-100% to 3% drops.

I'm using All Wagons with New Cargoes 1.1, but I also have access to vanilla wagons (like oil tankers duplicated, but only one of them refittable to Gasoline, Dyes etc.). Is it possible to disable old ones?

4) Should all the cargoes and industries be united in one GRF or not? My tests shows, that 4 vectors in one game is too much, but what do you think?

I think you should keep them separated for those who don't want to play with all vectors. Unless it complicates your work.
I actually play with all in one game. The more the better imo. Can't wait for those industries still not available

I include a screenshot of above network (in horrible quality due to file size limit). Direct link due to dimensions of the picture.
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4228/jjwood2.jpg

[Eddi]

Question: If I force train to unload cargo and leave empty at that station which at the moment doesn't accept wood will I get paid in future and the wood from station will be consumed, when sawmill gets back to it productivity and capacity levels it usually is?

no, once dropped off at the station, it will stay there until another vehicle picks it up, or your station rating drops below 50% (at which point it will slowly disappear without payment). you can try having a small vehicle going back and forth a very short distance to deliver this cargo.

[George]

Question: If I force train to unload cargo and leave empty at that station which at the moment doesn't accept wood will I get paid in future and the wood from station will be consumed, when sawmill gets back to it productivity and capacity levels it usually is?

ECS vectors does not affect stations. Unloaded cargo is wasted if it was not accepted by the industry. But you can deliver it somewhere else. Usually, I make the route to the next sawmill, and if the first sawmill does not accept wood, trains go to the second sawmill. And in case first sawmill accepts wood, the train unloads wood and goes back to the forest. See http://wiki.openttd.org/Conditional_Orders for details

I include a screenshot

can't open. Also please use PNG, not JPG.

[Kooboo]

ECS vectors does not affect stations. Unloaded cargo is wasted if it was not accepted by the industry. But you can deliver it somewhere else. Usually, I make the route to the next sawmill, and if the first sawmill does not accept wood, trains go to the second sawmill. And in case first sawmill accepts wood, the train unloads wood and goes back to the forest. See http://wiki.openttd.org/Conditional_Orders for details

Bigger issue was behaviour of industries. With long trains and very long distances they travel trains come to station not very often but with huge amounts of cargo. Industry having surplus of cargo accelerates it's consumption up to 100% Ultimate level. Then it suddenly drops instead of gradually falling down with output. Also industry capacity falls down and network crash happens.
I know it is possible to turn on unlimited cargo capacity on industries, but I think it's the behaviour of industries that's rather erratic.

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It's a screenshot of whole network. File would weigh 75MB if I used PNG, hence JPG that weighs only 4,9MB. Perhaps that's the reason why it didn't load - it's still quite large and loads rather long. But this screenshot is not very important.

Kind regards.