2.0.1 alpha / 2.5 beta discussion

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 15 Jun 2005 07:00

nope ... I did use mine, many graphic files (in TTDPatch Graphic Status window) were turned red ..so I started enabling one by one ... then before I finished (before I turn all them green) I pressed APPLY then the game closed with crashlog ...
it shouldn't do that anyway

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 18 Jun 2005 05:08

SHADOW-XIII wrote:I had a crash
I downloaded Rai latest game and started to enabling graphic files for it .... then after enabling most of the files (some not) I pressed APPLY and TTD window vanished leaving crashlog in TTD directory ... unfortunatly I wasn't able to reproduce the bug

Very odd. I found the bug, and I can't imagine that no-one has had this crash before. It's been in there since alpha 35!

Well, it should be fixed now.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 18 Jun 2005 17:20

I've got a question. Is FIFO loading supposed to work only on trains? Because it doesn't seem to work in ships, and it would be really great if it did.

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 18 Jun 2005 17:24

Patchman wrote:Very odd. I found the bug, and I can't imagine that no-one has had this crash before. It's been in there since alpha 35!
Well, it should be fixed now.

good, I managed to find it, thanks a lot Rai for savegame

Mek · Post by **Mek** » 20 Jun 2005 11:17

krtaylor wrote:I've got a question. Is FIFO loading supposed to work only on trains? Because it doesn't seem to work in ships, and it would be really great if it did.

it is only supposed to work on trains (mainly because i was too lazy to find the correct fragments to patch for other vehicles), but i'll add enabling it for other vehicles to my (unfortunately rapidly growing) list of things to do this summer... (wich also contains fixing the bugs that exist with trains)

Mad Hatter07 · Post by **Mad Hatter07** » 22 Jun 2005 23:56

i just got windows xp and whenever i start up tt it freezes up.....what patch do i need

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 23 Jun 2005 01:13

What is the antecedent of "it"? TTD or XP?
Are you using the USSet?
Does is still happen if you disable the AI?

Mad Hatter07 · Post by **Mad Hatter07** » 24 Jun 2005 01:34

i have the old dos verion of transtport tycoon not deluxe or ne thing.....on windows xp....game freezes after startup....please help

marcf · Post by **marcf** » 24 Jun 2005 02:05

like i said in your other post in the wrong place, Transport Tycoon Original (not deluxe) does not work on windows XP
you will have to get the windows version of Transport Tycoon Deluxe, and TTD patch

Prof. Frink · Post by **Prof. Frink** » 24 Jun 2005 08:10

Or run it through DosBox.
It _will_ run slowly though.

George · Post by **George** » 01 Jul 2005 04:30

Now that my exams are over, I resumed working on the newindustries switch, and now it roughly does everything I wanted it to. That's why I thought I release an experimental "alpha 53 vcs" version. This release will be interesting mainly for GRF coders, I think.
A small demonstration GRF. Just add it to your newgrf.cfg file, start a new temperate game and look at a steel mill.

And how does it determenate how much steel to produce?

Csaboka · Post by **Csaboka** » 01 Jul 2005 07:19

I forgot to check for the case when more than 255 units are waiting.
I'll fix this ASAP.

[edit] It's fixed now. Please download it again.

George · Post by **George** » 01 Jul 2005 13:35

Csaboka wrote:I forgot to check for the case when more than 255 units are waiting. It's fixed now. Please download it again.

Would it be possible to make 1 ton of coal and 4 tons of iron ore become 4 tones of steel? (to use less coal then iron ore)

michael blunck · Post by **michael blunck** » 01 Jul 2005 14:06

George wrote:Would it be possible to make 1 ton of coal and 4 tons of iron ore become 4 tones of steel? (to use less coal then iron ore)

In reality, one would need 1.3 tons of iron ore (depends on quality) and 350 kg of coke to get the pig iron for 1 ton of oxygen steel.

So a more realistical scheme would be 3 tons of coal + 10 tons of iron ore -> 8 tons of steel. Just for the record. You could easily change it yourself, BTW.

regards
Michael

George · Post by **George** » 02 Jul 2005 07:01

Some strange things

Shouldn't the cargo be distributed BETWEEN two industries, which accept it? Here all the coal goes to power station. Can it be changed?

Csaboka · Post by **Csaboka** » 02 Jul 2005 08:20

George wrote:Some strange things

Oh well, that negative display is a surprize for me as well. I simply used the same text as TTD uses for cargo waiting at stations, and now it turns out it expects a signed word instead of an unsigned one. Why would anyone display negative amounts of cargo is beyond me, though

I don't know how to fix that yet, just try living with it for a while.

George wrote:Shouldn't the cargo be distributed BETWEEN two industries, which accept it? Here all the coal goes to power station. Can it be changed?

TTD never distributed incoming cargo between two things, it's always the closest one that gets the full amount. This may be changed with a lot of coding, but this wasn't my intention while writing newindustreies code.

habell · Post by **habell** » 02 Jul 2005 09:32

When I try to deliver Iron ore en Coal to the Steel Mill. Only the Iron ore is counted. The coal remains zero.

Any suggestions.
Also the new patch (a53vcs) is unable to load any saved game

Csaboka · Post by **Csaboka** » 02 Jul 2005 09:40

Could you please post your savegame and configuration? Are you using the DOS or the Windows version?

Loading savegames works fine for me, so I have no clue about that.

About the stell mill vs. coal issue: Are you sure there's nothing that accepts coal in the vicinity of your station, except the steel mill? If there's a power station closer to the station sign, it will get the coal instead of the mill.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » 02 Jul 2005 10:51

My savegame loads, but it isn't working ??

Probably something stupidly simple that I'm forgetting here.

Maybe worth mentioning : I'm now in December 3137.

Csaboka · Post by **Csaboka** » 02 Jul 2005 12:40

Now this is strange. That GRF isn't supposed to work correctly in existing savegames, but that station should have still accepted both coal and iron ore. You don't have moreindustriesperclimate enabled, do you? Is the newindustries switch enabled?

If you can't solve that problem, I'm interested in that savegame and your configuration.

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