REQUEST to artists: Ship lift sprites

Rob · Post by **Rob** » 04 Feb 2004 16:18

Probably because you can build water with this new feature, even without raising the land first.
Building the dikes automatically provide a saveguard against flood, although the canals can't actually flood the surrouding land anyhow.
But it just looks better.
Beside having to raise the land first, creates the need to have enough room to do so.

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 04 Feb 2004 16:32

Docks need a small piece of cliff to work, thats a limit I can't change...

Indeed you would need more space,
but the main reason is that I don't want to touch again the flood routine as I already said in this thread it's not well programmed
and to change it would need a lot more work.

This feature already takes to long for me personally,
if someone wants to take the bugfixing part, he can get the sources ... (I don't need a ghostwriter but a ghostprogrammer

)

Todo:
Removeing function doesn't work, shiplifts can be flooded :/ ,
shiplifts are affected by rising lowering land, that shouldn't happen, but it does. Have to look why shipdepots aren't flooded...

Some 3D Boxes as George told me aren't right, so the shiplift sprites need a fixing...

After alpha release:
Fixing visual support, dikes, maybe add a water icon to buyland tool...

mp3Pro · Post by **mp3Pro** » 04 Feb 2004 20:04

umm in progress

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 04 Feb 2004 22:55

George I was thinking about like "like here"

George · Post by **George** » 05 Feb 2004 15:31

SHADOW-XIII wrote:George I was thinking about like "like here"

Working on it. In progress

hovering teacup · Post by **hovering teacup** » 05 Feb 2004 16:11

eis_os wrote:as I already said in this thread

ouf! sorry...

I personally don't care if waters present such an enormous superfidial tension that they aren't spilt down over the slopes. anyway you've got to put the ship-lift on the slope to let the ship pass so I don't see much problem in using original flood routine. (I would even not mind if ships go up the river without help of the lift even though they would look like trauts or something going up the river if the sloping part continues too long...) but well... you people are seeking another way.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 05 Feb 2004 16:18

Actually, that's a good point - if there was a section of slanted water, the ships could just go diagonally up and down it. It would look a little strange but not too bad.

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 05 Feb 2004 16:45

We already had this here:
http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=123134#123134

I repeat again: I haven't changed the flood routine.
TTD only supports the stuff you see. TTDs flood routine stops if the tile is above the sealevel.

(Sometimes users make me angry, please read what I explain to you

Or in other words, why is it so hard to put information in your heads sometimes

)
Ohh, and before you cry a reference: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=130429#130429

Again: The canal patch doesn't touch the flood routine in TTD.
And again: If I would remove the test if is higher than seelevel, TTD would start flooding behind the coast tiles.

George · Post by **George** » 06 Feb 2004 05:17

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 06 Feb 2004 05:23

Not bad at all! What's it look like when the ship goes up and down?

Prof. Frink · Post by **Prof. Frink** » 06 Feb 2004 07:49

I like that.
I like that a lot.

Arathorn · Post by **Arathorn** » 06 Feb 2004 08:29

Me too, but try to make the lift itself taller, so you don't see the odd water.

Saiyan · Post by **Saiyan** » 06 Feb 2004 08:29

Whoa! That looks soooooo great!

George · Post by **George** » 06 Feb 2004 10:24

krtaylor wrote:Not bad at all! What's it look like when the ship goes up and down?

Bad

Long ship is seen under the upper part of the lift. I need to draw something to hide it.

2Oskar: did you fix the problem with the other lift directions?

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 06 Feb 2004 11:57

George wrote:Test

loooks beautiful

too bad you have to hide it

George · Post by **George** » 06 Feb 2004 12:07

SHADOW-XIII wrote:
George wrote:Test
loooks beautiful too bad you have to hide it

? To hide what? I can put the grf file on my site, but you can not test it. Ask Oskar for the alpha to test it.

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 06 Feb 2004 12:40

George wrote:Test

One word: Superb! I especally like the water above the water level - the walls suit it perfectly.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 06 Feb 2004 15:05

I'm not sure about the walls. It seems like a hybrid, unless you had the water totally obscured by the walls, in which case it would be fine for a canal lock. Otherwise it looks like a river, which is OK if the waterway is designed like that, but would be bizarre if you were using it to connect two lakes - up, over, and down.

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 06 Feb 2004 16:02

George wrote:
krtaylor wrote:Not bad at all! What's it look like when the ship goes up and down?
Bad
Long ship is seen under the upper part of the lift. I need to draw something to hide it.

You can't, it's a problem how TTD draws groundsprites, for the pics currrently a cliff climbing would be better right?

The only way to make it better, changeing the hotspot point more at the lower part. I am aware of it, it's a problem with TTDs Groundsprite Drawing, the groundsprite drawing order can't be changed.
Maybe we should switch back to simple cliff climbing ships? Any comments?

George wrote: 2Oskar: did you fix the problem with the other lift directions?

Not yet... weekend?

Endre · Post by **Endre** » 06 Feb 2004 18:41

Anyway, it looks very nice. Awesome! Keep up the good work! This is much better than the previous ones.

Transport Tycoon Forums

REQUEST to artists: Ship lift sprites

Canals test

Re: Canals test

Re: Canals test

Re: Canals test

Who is online