General Dutch and Belgium Transport Talk

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 01 Apr 2007 11:20

4 of the 7 cars who will be used tomporary on the HSL. (I hope they gonna use them later on the "old" benelux, if it survives the HSL.)

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 01 Apr 2007 12:42

Hmm... those look pretty neat.

DeletedUser21 · Post by **DeletedUser21** » 01 Apr 2007 13:04

What if the wagons are arranged in the wrong order? It'll look stupid then.

chevyrider · Post by **chevyrider** » 01 Apr 2007 13:45

In most pulled trains, N.S. makes sets of 3 carriages, which stay together.
If one of the carriages needs service, the whole set is changed out of the train then.
One of the reasons is, that there is always a good mix of first and second class along the train.

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 01 Apr 2007 23:58

A better picture of the train:

Well, it looks fast but i dont want a grill

DeletedUser21 · Post by **DeletedUser21** » 02 Apr 2007 07:07

Just WHY has the nose to be that big?

chevyrider · Post by **chevyrider** » 02 Apr 2007 08:00

Mr. X wrote:Just WHY has the nose to be that big?

Then it looks like a car.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 02 Apr 2007 08:46

The livery sucks too

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 02 Apr 2007 09:16

I like the livery, its finaly something else between all the yellow and white, red, blue

Btw i am pretty sure that there will be a coupling there

Pookey · Post by **Pookey** » 02 Apr 2007 09:29

Mr. X wrote:Just WHY has the nose to be that big?

That nose looks ridiculously large, especially compared to Aus trains.

chevyrider · Post by **chevyrider** » 02 Apr 2007 10:12

Pookey wrote:
Mr. X wrote:Just WHY has the nose to be that big?
That nose looks ridiculously large, especially compared to Aus trains.

Guys, this is only a commercial-model, to introduce the HiSpeed company.
This is not intended to become our newest train.

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 02 Apr 2007 10:58

Why is it used on the website and movies and stuff?

DeletedUser21 · Post by **DeletedUser21** » 02 Apr 2007 12:28

Promoting reasons?

Chevy is right, it's not as if it will run on normal local lines anyway.

There will be a new train for that tough. And I quite like that model.

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 03 Apr 2007 08:00

On the RailHobby site (a Dutch magazine about trains) they have a mock-up of the model on tracks, next to an ICE3 and TGV Thalys PBKA.

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 03 Apr 2007 21:02

Hyronymus wrote:On the RailHobby site (a Dutch magazine about trains) they have a mock-up of the model on tracks, next to an ICE3 and TGV Thalys PBKA.

Could you scan it for us?

More pictures of the ugly duck:

http://www.trenomania.org/fotogallery/d ... 373&pos=46

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 16 Apr 2007 10:54

Btw, the Belgium new engine would be in in the range 1801 to 1860 see: http://www.hgbtf.net/viewtopic.php?t=2210 (dutch)

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 18 Apr 2007 21:39

Triple kill er i mean post;

Bombardier wins 40 mln eur train refurbishment contract from Dutch railways
04.18.07, 11:02 AM ET

LONDON (Thomson Financial) - Bombardier Transportation said it has won a 40 mln eur contract to refurbish trains for the Dutch national railways.

Bombardier said Nederlandse Spoorwegen Reizigers, a subsidiary of the Dutch railway company Nederlandse Spoorwegen (NS), had commissioned it to refit 30 SGM II two-car units.

The Canadian company will carry out the work on the trains, which were originally built between 1974 and 1979 by the Bombardier plant in Aachen in Germany, at its plant in Randers, Denmark, between now and 2009.

Source: Forbes

So now we have refurbished SGM III, ICM and now the SGM-II. Hopefully now the "old" doublestock will get an refurbishment

SGM-II are these guys btw:

His already refurbished 3 part brother:

DeletedUser21 · Post by **DeletedUser21** » 19 Apr 2007 06:04

I knew that for a while, I didn't know where I read it tough.

Anyway, the SGM-II do have newer doors already. And they were coupled to the mSGM-III to service on the Zaanlijn not too long ago.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 19 Apr 2007 08:45

Please do not refurbish the SGM-II CityPendel: Their interior is super relaxed. The SGM-III Sprinter got hard plastic seats, the SGM-II CityPendel reasonable soft benches. Sprinters s*ck nowadays, they used to be way more relaxed. But well, seems to happen with all of the new trains, unfortunately.

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 19 Apr 2007 16:08

I travelled on one of those refurbished train on my holiday in Holland.

Went from the Amsterdam Bijlmer Arena to the Centraal Station. Quite nice trains, dont make a lot of noise at all.

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