Train accidents in The Netherlands

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 24 Nov 2006 14:26

Daan Timmer wrote:To stay off-topic.

The rule you pointed out hyronymous was about images that are uploaded on the server itself. The server itself has a script running that will make it a link as soon as it exceeds either w > 800 or h > 600.

This does not apply to linked-images, unless the rules would be changed.

That's nitpicking. Hyro's right.

Anyway, those noses are a bit build for head-on-crashes like that AFAIK but this was clearly a big bang since the whole front is wrecked!
Yes, but look at the blue locomotive (forgot name). It looks all but wrecked so I guess the nose worked, but I am note sure what would be a better option *next time*.

IMO, the blue locomotive (apparantly a class 66 of the ACTS) looks quite in one piece. Don't forget the class 66 has a flat nose. It seems like it was definately a lot stronger that the yellow train's (mat 64) nose (which possibly was even meant to absorb some crash energy).

I do hope the class 66 can be fixed easily. It's my favourite engine.

EDIT: Quote construction might be messed up.

Daan Timmer · Post by **Daan Timmer** » 24 Nov 2006 16:03

Purno wrote:
Daan Timmer wrote:To stay off-topic.

The rule you pointed out hyronymous was about images that are uploaded on the server itself. The server itself has a script running that will make it a link as soon as it exceeds either w > 800 or h > 600.

This does not apply to linked-images, unless the rules would be changed.
That's nitpicking. Hyro's right.

True, sure he is right, I don't doubt that

But if you look from it from another point of few, if that would have been the case in a real law-suite. Then he would have lost it. because it is not written properly

No am I not trying to offend you hyro

On the locomotive part. I am not sure what is better, either a flat-strong nose or the one that the mat. has...

Sure, it absorbs a lot of energy, however, take a look at that train, if there were passengers behind it they would have gotten serious injured. Or the train driver? I am sure the one in the class66 would have had a more *safer* collision

Post by **Dave** » 24 Nov 2006 17:36

Purno wrote:IMO, the blue locomotive (apparantly a class 66 of the ACTS) looks quite in one piece. Don't forget the class 66 has a flat nose. It seems like it was definately a lot stronger that the yellow train's (mat 64) nose (which possibly was even meant to absorb some crash energy).

I do hope the class 66 can be fixed easily. It's my favourite engine.

The 66s are like tanks! I'll be surprised if it's got any major damage at all...

That yellow train looks like a complete write-off tho. I can't imagine you'd be able to make it structurally safe for the driver after that impact.

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 26 Nov 2006 10:33

http://www.diesel-trein.nl/ahb826/ahb826.php

Some pictures after they have removed the trains from the track.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 Nov 2006 10:53

And how's life with the cargo engine?

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 26 Nov 2006 11:51

Here he is:

http://members.lycos.nl/simonbruggeling/PB231681.JPG

( http://members.lycos.nl/simonbruggeling/ )

Post by **Dave** » 26 Nov 2006 11:56

That really stood up quite nicely.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 Nov 2006 12:02

Looks fixable, fortunately.

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 26 Nov 2006 12:26

Still, I wonder what happens with the driver and in general to the license ACTS has for riding on the rail network. Two accidents appearently caused by ACTS in one week just sounds bad. I guess we'll have to wait for the report of the NRTV (the Dutch NTSB).

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 26 Nov 2006 12:55

Hold on, 1 of ACTS (The one in Rotterdam) the one in Arnhem with a ACTS Engine but a ERS driver

The Irish · Post by **The Irish** » 26 Nov 2006 13:05

Illegal_Alien wrote:Hold on, 1 of ACTS (The one in Rotterdam) the one in Arnhem with a ACTS Engine but a ERS driver

Long live the railway liberalisation

We are heading towards a full scale situation of where England was 10 years ago, here on the continent as well. If these are the benefits of liberalisation, then good night...

Post by **Dave** » 26 Nov 2006 18:37

The Irish wrote:
Illegal_Alien wrote:Hold on, 1 of ACTS (The one in Rotterdam) the one in Arnhem with a ACTS Engine but a ERS driver
Long live the railway liberalisation

We are heading towards a full scale situation of where England was 10 years ago, here on the continent as well. If these are the benefits of liberalisation, then good night...

Nah... That's still happening today mate.

Bring back BR.

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 26 Nov 2006 20:00

We almost had another one;

A Local vs a Fastservice train, they where driving on the same track near Hilversum...

http://binnenland.nieuws.nl/439769/Bijn ... _Hilversum (Dutch)

Post by **Dave** » 26 Nov 2006 20:11

Which says, in English?

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 Nov 2006 20:46

Two passenger trains somehow landed right behind each other on the same track.

That's it, in short.

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 26 Nov 2006 20:59

Purno wrote:Two passenger trains somehow landed right behind each other on the same track.

That's it, in short.

Not behind but in collision course. (Head to head)

Post by **Dave** » 26 Nov 2006 21:02

You have some very SPADdy drivers and some very rubbish Signallers

Griff · Post by **Griff** » 26 Nov 2006 21:06

Ooh, head to head on the same track, tis like Ladbroke grove all over again, lucky nothing occured there.
Something is up with the system is this is what...the 3rd accident or near accident is so many days..it can't be a normal thing, something's got to be wrong.

Post by **Dave** » 26 Nov 2006 21:11

To be fair, it's generally rare for it to happen. I guess people have been under pressure which has caused mistakes.

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 26 Nov 2006 21:12

They are working on the tracks at Hilversum, aren't they Purno? Maybe that has something to do with it.

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