[WIP/REL/HQ] Older US freight / passenger cars

Sebastian Styrnol · Post by **Sebastian Styrnol** » 25 Sep 2006 07:09

Hi,

as our master in all sorts of US rolling stock apparently has left us, I put down a request I originally suggested to him.

The current US set features all sorts of freight cars, which however only turn up as early as 1955-65 for the most part.

The same applies to the passenger cars which begin to turn up with the first diesels (1940s ?).

What I would like to see is some pre-1960s freight and passenger equipment like box cars (for cattle, goods, food, paper), gondolas (steel, coal, ore), flat cars (steel, goods, lumber), hopper cars (coal, ore) and mail and passenger cars (heavyweights, lightweights).

Unfortunately I have never managed to make Lomo sprites, otherwise I would have tried, but I can offer to hunt down the relevant MSTS shapes and also to contact the authors for permission (to make this a team effort).

Thanks for reading and if you got any further suggestions, I'd be happy to discuss them!

Jose · Post by **Jose** » 25 Sep 2006 10:04

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Sebastian Styrnol · Post by **Sebastian Styrnol** » 25 Sep 2006 14:15

Let me know if I can help you. I know quite a few of the MSTS guys, maybe I can speed up things a bit or simply smooth them over...

Jose · Post by **Jose** » 26 Sep 2006 03:02

I think that when i asked for permission for the release of some of my other sets is that the authers of the models have moved on and have not made anything for a year which explains why i am not getting a response. Help would be greatly appreciated.
What rolling stock would you like to see? I know about modern US stock a lot more than the older stuff. I am open for suggestions.

Sebastian Styrnol · Post by **Sebastian Styrnol** » 26 Sep 2006 08:27

Here is a list of freight cars that would IMHO be suitable, all freeware from http://www.train-sim.com. Of course these are just suggestions and do not by any means suggest a list of stuff that HAS to be converted!

However along with the rolling stock already done by Plastikman, we'd have a nice collection of US stock from about 1920 through to today (of course with some artistic liberties.

If you want, I'll approach these guys and ask them for permission.

34 ft box cars (suggested availability pre 1870-1920):

dghm1121.zip - Detroit Grand Haven And Milwaukee Railway 34 foot truss rod boxcar, Model by John L. Fleming.A product of Port City Car Company (PCCC)
rwo7585.zip - MSTS Rome, Watertown and Ogdensburg Railroad 34 foot truss rod box car, Model by John L. Fleming. A product of Port City Car Company (PCCC)

40 ft box cars (suggested availability 1910-1950):

Goods / Paper
spsbx10k.zip - Spokane Portland & Seattle Ry Boxcar, 3D models and textures by Tim Muir ***PERMITTED***
fjgboxes.zip - FJ&G 40 Foot Steel XM-Class Boxcar, Original model by Larry Goss. Reskinned by Toby Schwartzman ***PERMITTED***
box_gn_5.zip - GN Boxcar 39407, 'Empire Builder' scheme, Reskinned by Michael Stephan, based on Larry Goss's 40' boxcar ***PERMITTED***
np21555.zip - Northern Pacific 40-Ton Double-Sheathed Boxcar, 3D model and textures by Tim Muir ***PERMITTED***

Food
pfewoodr.zip - MSTS Pacific Fruit Express Wooden Refrigerator 3-Pack, with roofwalks and friction bearing trucks. Original model and photographic textures by Larry Goss. Re-textured by Tim Muir. ***PERMITTED***

40 ft wood chip car (suggested availability 1920-1950, for enhanced paper cycle):

spschip1.zip - Spokane Portland & Seattle Woodchip Car, 3D models and textures by Tim Muir ***PERMITTED***

40 ft flat cars (suggested availability 1920-1950):

spsflat1.zip - MSTS Spokane Portland & Seattle Ry Flat Car #32349, with loaded and unloaded shapes and wagon files, D models and textures by Tim Muir ***PERMITTED***
gnflats.zip - MSTS Great Northern 40 Foot Flat Car Pack. A set of GN (Great Northern) steam and early diesel era 40' flatcars with various loads (logs, timber, crates, pipes, wheels and more). The cars are relettered versions of Dick Cowen's Canton RR flat cars. Realistic physics and Jim Ward's front coupler patch are included. Relettering done by Michael Stephan ***PERMITTED***

34 ft hopper cars (suggest availability 1920-1950):

Coal
gn34hop1.zip - MSTS Great Northern Railway 34' Hoppers. Includes empty and loaded versions. Original model by Brian Piotrowski. GN repaint by T.W. Muir. ***PERMITTED***

Ore
gn_orec.zip - MSTS Great Northern Iron Ore Hoppers. Twelve different ore cars, three body styles, loaded and empty. Model by Okrasa Ghia, truck texture by Teemu Saukkonen, GN paint and styling by Jasper Burmester.

Grain
gnhopcls.zip - MSTS Great Northern Railway 34' Closed Hopper; loaded and empty version. This GN car is a reskin of Dick Cowen's Canton RR closed hopper. Realistic physics and Jim Ward's front coupler patch are included in this car. Repainted by Michael Stephan. ***PERMITTED***

40 ft tank cars (suggest availability 1920-1950):

Oil / Chemicals
mobil.zip - Mobil Oil 3 Dome Tank Car, Textures by Carl Venzke. 3D model and textures by Pete Willard ***PERMITTED***
dot103.zip - DOT103 ACF 3-Dome Tank 4-Pack, Physics by Bob Boudoin, BASF texture by Bill Bzak, 3D models and textures by Pete Willard ***PERMITTED***
icc103w.zip - ICC103W ACF One Dome Tank from the Keystone Works A 4000 gallon, ICC103W ACF tank car from the 1940'S. 3D model and textures by Pete Willard. ***PERMITTED***

40 ft gondolas (suggested availability 1920-1950):

Coal / Ore / Steel
bo_gons.zip - MSTS B&O Gondola Pack, Original model and textures by Dick Cowen. Relettered into Baltimore and Ohio by Michael Stephan. ***PERMITTED***

Passenger cars (suggested availability 1920-1950):

p-54.zip - MSTS PRR P-54 Coach And Combine. Pennsylvania RR non-powered suburban railcars originally built for steam locomotive commuter service. This equipment was predecessor to the later "Red Rattler" electric powered MP-54 multiple unit railcar series. The two-unit set features detailed interior/exterior designs. Original models by Jeff Link and detailed artistry by Frederick Dreany. ***PERMITTED***
dlw_pax.zip - MSTS DLW Commuter Coach And Combine. Lackawanna non-powered commuter railcars. This equipment was predecessor to the later DLW powered electric multiple unit railcar series. The two-unit set features detailed interior/exterior designs. Original "Island Electric" models by Jeff Link and detailed artistry by Frederick Dreany. ***PERMITTED***
hvypak1.zip - MSTS Generic Heavyweight Passenger Cars. Includes baggage cars, buffet lounge, coaches, combine, diner, observation cars, Railway Express Agency (REA) car, Railway Post Office (RPO) car, Pullman Dover Harbor private car. Original model and textures by Damon Swanson. Modifications and textures by Teemu Saukkonen.

Misc stuff (suggested availability 1920-1950):

Traction
mapa62.zip - MSTS Maryland & Pennsylvania RR #62. Electro-Motive Corp 440 hp 65-ton gas-electric car. Includes two head-end cars: Ma & Pa combination mail-baggage car #34 and Ma & Pa baggage car #42. 3D modeling and textures by Tim Muir. ***PERMITTED***
hf_ge12.zip - MSTS Hagerstown & Frederick ALCO-GE Steeplecab #12 electric interurban freight locomotive. Includes 6.2 meter and 7.2 meter wire heights. Sounds by Chuck Zeiler, model and graphics by T.W. Muir. ***PERMITTED***
nslpull.zip - MSTS Chicago North Shore Interurban Set. Chicago North Shore & Milwaukee Railroad Pullman heavyweight interurban set, Models built by Matt Austin of Pacific Traction Works. Credits go to Ted Ahner, Wayne Campbell, Paul Deverter, 'Electroburger', Bill Hall, Lukas Lusser, Dave Mewwhinney, Tim Muir, Carles Romero, Don Ross, Mike Rothenberg, Joe Stupar, Keith Wilson, Chuck Zeiler and others. ***PERMITTED***
pe1615.zip - MSTS Pacific Electric Ry #1615 64-Ton 1601-Class electric freight locomotive. A 1916 Baldwin-Westinghouse Class D interurban locomotive, painted in 1949 colors. A high-detail model with full interior. 3D model and textures by Tim Muir. ***PERMITTED***

Heavy Electrics
milwe74.zip - MSTS Milwaukee Road Electric EF-4 "Little Joe" freight locomotive. #E74 original model and textures by Frank Musick. 3D modeling and texture configuration for the last days of electrification (late 1960's to 1974), by Tim Muir. Physics and lighting by Chuck Zeiler. ***PERMITTED***
70mlwef1.zip - MSTS Milwaukee Road Boxcabs. Orange and black scheme used in the final days of electrification. These are not repainted locos. These are the required aces needed to easily update current models to late '60's to 1974. Follow instructions in the Readme Doc. By Tim Muir. ***PERMITTED***

I have tried only to select stuff from guys that are still active so getting permission would seem to be easy. Again, if anyone has feedback, criticism or clever comments, please feel free to discuss!

Jose · Post by **Jose** » 26 Sep 2006 11:43

That list looks very good

, i would be happy to do all of them. If you could sort permission (i'll help) that would be a massive help, i think getting permission is the hardest part

. Cant wait to start converting!
Inform me if you get any permission and i will whack it into the game ASAP, i'll do my part as well. *off to trainsim to do some downloading*

Sebastian Styrnol · Post by **Sebastian Styrnol** » 26 Sep 2006 11:48

Okay, I'll go right to work!

EDIT: Sent a multitude of emails and PMs off to the authors, will notify you of their replies. Please PM me your email address so that I can forward you the replies if needed.

SkyNet · Post by **SkyNet** » 26 Sep 2006 15:02

cool ... what about new steamers ?

plastikman released a beta with maybe 5 of em ... damn why is he gone ...

Train-a-Mania · Post by **Train-a-Mania** » 26 Sep 2006 19:31

I was thinking about doing either a Denver and Rio Grande set or an Old Time revival set. Since I'm busy at the moment, I don't know if anything is possible, but I can try.

Jose · Post by **Jose** » 27 Sep 2006 03:09

I can make steamers with animated parts, just getting permission is the problem.

Jose · Post by **Jose** » 27 Sep 2006 10:32

Here is the GN 34' ft grain hopper in game.

Sebastian Styrnol · Post by **Sebastian Styrnol** » 27 Sep 2006 11:08

You did shrink the image somewhat in the vertical axis, didn't you?

The 'wells and the hoppers look like it at least...

Otherwise it looks like you're off for a good start!

Jose · Post by **Jose** » 27 Sep 2006 11:16

no thats how big they are, i can send it to you and you can test it to see if it needs an increase in height.
EDIT: Here is a shot of the set so far (the locomotive is Plastikmans) It still needs a bit of work.

Sebastian Styrnol · Post by **Sebastian Styrnol** » 27 Sep 2006 12:17

That would be awesome! Maybe I am too used to the modern stuff in Lomo...

The set looks awesome so far!

Jose · Post by **Jose** » 27 Sep 2006 12:27

Thanks, the ore jenny, boxcab and heavyweights are coming next.
I plan to release a few old electrics such as the EP2 BiPolar and a EF4 little joe. They had to be resized though.
Wanna change this topic to a WIP?

busman · Post by **busman** » 27 Sep 2006 21:12

looks good, heres some of the stuff that I have done (there a little bit large I need to find out how to resize them. (HELP please)) some are directly from MSTS and others I have reskined myself

MjD · Post by **MjD** » 27 Sep 2006 21:40

Have you used Shape File Manager to resize them at all?? If not then there is your answer

http://www.uktrainsim.com to get SFM

MD

Jose · Post by **Jose** » 28 Sep 2006 05:28

busman wrote:looks good, heres some of the stuff that I have done (there a little bit large I need to find out how to resize them. (HELP please)) some are directly from MSTS and others I have reskined myself

There very good

, have you got permission to release them.
I have made a FM trainmaster, DDA40X, U25B, GP15, EP5, E44, EP2, AC6000CW, AC4400CW plus a NS TOFC, UP Boxcar, CN Ultratrain Tanker
and a bethgon Coalporter.

Sebastian Styrnol · Post by **Sebastian Styrnol** » 28 Sep 2006 06:34

Further permissions received by DLW (Jeff Link) and Larry Goss.

Jose · Post by **Jose** » 29 Sep 2006 03:30

Alright here is an update, there is two heavyweight coaches, XM boxcars, the NLS interurbans and a Hagerstown & Frederick steeplecab.

Sebastian, do you want me to send you the files so you can do a bit of beta testing?

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