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What is suggested?
ECS is the general schema for all the landscapes. For specific landscapes (generic ones are arctic and tropic) and specific landscapes (like Japan set, Canadian set, Spanish set) there are special mods, which change the ECS (mods for generic landscapes are represented in the schema).
All the sets have to be changed to support ECS. If I’m not mistaken, only refitted vehicles should be changed.
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If so, than it's okay. But what when town will lost in population and stop accepting food/goods and storage/warehouse is already built? It can occur especially when towns are small and only few buildings accept food/goods.krtaylor wrote:My thought would be that you can pay to build a Warehouse or Cold Storage facility (which accepts goods or food, and contributes to the town accordingly), BUT you are only allowed to build them in a town that already accepts goods or food. So this isn't a shortcut to getting the town able to accept them, merely an insurance that the town will continue to accept them.
As long as they don't suddenly disappear, that would be fine, IMO.michael blunck wrote: I´d propose to implement them as "buildings" rather than as "industries".
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Okay, I understandkrtaylor wrote:but in the Tropic it's endemic. It's ridiculous, and a headache.
That's what I said about cargo stations in big cities and it will be very useful, but it's second thing because this doesn't solve krtaylor's problem.well the warehous/granary/food storage appearing can be set to only big towns, like 5000 people or more, then you do not have to transport those cargos somewhere in the middle of a town only to those facilites (which is more realistic then)
Exactly. They must be stable (AFAIK it's possible through buildings), no matter if they are industries or normal buildings. But we must remember to not fetch it into simplification.As long as they don't suddenly disappear, that would be fine, IMO.I´d propose to implement them as "buildings" rather than as "industries".
>> I´d propose to implement them as "buildings" rather than as "industries".
> As long as they don't suddenly disappear, that would be fine, IMO.
Well, for normal buildings, you don´t have any influence on the town´s construction process. O/c, the usual town buildings would take "food" and "goods" in any case, so adding storage facilities would simply foster that behaviour.
However, there are means to ensure that these special buildings wouldn´t be removed by towns.
The details have to be still found out and the whole thing would be part of a buildings set then.
This is a no brainer!
You already have them!
Build a station with the PGS warehouse tiles. Then have your train do an unload there. POOF! Instant storage. I do it all the time. I rename them as distribution centers or food terminals or the like. Attach a truck station and you can set up a local delivery route from the warehouse.
Bottom line? You do not need another building or whatever. They already exist.
But that's not the point.Siema wrote:But station with even most beautiful warehouse/storage won't force your town to accept food/goods
The point is to have a place to keep the stuff until it can be accepted.
Indeed.Patchman wrote:But if you keep it in a warehouse, you won't get any money for delivery because it'll be spoiled.
This will be not ttd-like, and it's complicating things. We were only talking about building/industry that can accept food/goods because buildings in towns are moving and going outside station acceptance area.The point is to have a place to keep the stuff until it can be accepted.
Ya gota know how to do it.Patchman wrote:But if you keep it in a warehouse, you won't get any money for delivery because it'll be spoiled.
This is indeed very ttd-like and its not complicated.Siema wrote:This will be not ttd-like, and it's complicating things. We were only talking about building/industry that can accept food/goods because buildings in towns are moving and going outside station acceptance area.
Here's how to do it:
1. In your game, open the railroad station building tool.
2. Select Freight
3. Select Warehouse
4. Select the number of tracks and length for your new warehouse.
5. Point and click on the spot where you want to build it. (you will notice that your new warehouse includes track through it)
6. Run some track from your new warehouse back to a station near a food processing plant.
7. Build a train with refrigerated box cars reconfigured to transport food from the food processing plant to your new warehouse.
8. Set the train's orders to "full load" at the food processing plant's station and to "unload" at your new warehouse.
9. Open the road building tool
10. Select the truck station icon (make sure it is the proper orientation)
11. Point and click on a tile directly adjacent to your new warehouse. (you now have a truck station that is part of your new warehouse)
12. Run a road from the truck station to any road in your town.
13. Build several truck stations in your town so that at least one will receive food whenever the town moves houses.
14. Build some of George's trucks reconfigured to transport food from your new warehouse to each of the truck stations in your town.
15. When one of your trucks happens to find a station that actually accepts food, you will earn money for transporting the food. A feature of the patch will allow that money to be shared between the truck and the train.
15. Now, this is the most important part ... pay very close attention ... because it will all fail unless you get this right:
16. Your new warehouse is actually a station. It has a station name. Click on that station name and add these words (exactly, or it won't work):
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this forces me to either give a vehicle multiple orders (for example to visit ALL those stations) which makes train/road networks quiet busy and stuckablewallyweb wrote:13. Build several truck stations in your town so that at least one will receive food whenever the town moves houses.
to built multiple vehicles some for every station, which is also not so good since we are often out of vehicles (remember, there's only 240 vehicles per type) and some of them will give no income (because some of them will always have same cargo, until station accept food)
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