"Project Generic Stations" Thread

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 25 Aug 2005 23:53

Its the opposite here. All train stations (including small ones in the country) were built by big rich companies and built them to accomodate 12 coach trains. Since all we have today are 2 car DMUs, lots of platform space, although lots of the unused platform has some grass between the cracks.

YouTube · Post by **Geo Ghost** » 26 Aug 2005 07:58

Born Acorn wrote:Its the opposite here. All train stations (including small ones in the country) were built by big rich companies and built them to accomodate 12 coach trains. Since all we have today are 2 car DMUs, lots of platform space, although lots of the unused platform has some grass between the cracks.

What a waste!

cornelius · Post by **cornelius** » 26 Aug 2005 22:20

Born Acorn wrote:Its the opposite here. All train stations (including small ones in the country) were built by big rich companies and built them to accomodate 12 coach trains. Since all we have today are 2 car DMUs, lots of platform space, although lots of the unused platform has some grass between the cracks.

That's not always true BA. Where I live the platforms have been extended to take longer commuter trains at country stations and the new sections are very different to the old. I was able to observe this on the way home this evening when my train caught fire

Aegir · Post by **Aegir** » 27 Aug 2005 07:22

Proudly Presenting:
Project Generic Stations v1.2 Preview 3
A joint project between the members of the TT-Forums
In DOS and Windows flavors for your enjoyment.

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 27 Aug 2005 09:23

cornelius wrote:
Born Acorn wrote:Its the opposite here. All train stations (including small ones in the country) were built by big rich companies and built them to accomodate 12 coach trains. Since all we have today are 2 car DMUs, lots of platform space, although lots of the unused platform has some grass between the cracks.
That's not always true BA. Where I live the platforms have been extended to take longer commuter trains at country stations and the new sections are very different to the old. I was able to observe this on the way home this evening when my train caught fire

Really? Nifty. Shame about the fire, what caused it?

Oh and woo! pgs-pre3!

Here are some new platforms and cranes. The lights mesh better and the ramps are now the right size.

YouTube · Post by **Geo Ghost** » 27 Aug 2005 10:39

Aegir wrote:Proudly Presenting:
Project Generic Stations v1.2 Preview 3
A joint project between the members of the TT-Forums
In DOS and Windows flavors for your enjoyment.

You not going to tell us whats in it?

Aegir · Post by **Aegir** » 27 Aug 2005 10:47

Geo.c Ghost wrote:
Aegir wrote:Proudly Presenting:
Project Generic Stations v1.2 Preview 3
A joint project between the members of the TT-Forums
In DOS and Windows flavors for your enjoyment.
You not going to tell us whats in it?

God no! You have to see for yourself!

YouTube · Post by **Geo Ghost** » 27 Aug 2005 11:16

Aegir wrote: God no! You have to see for yourself!

Nice!

Love the Industrial station blocks! they look really cool!

Aegir · Post by **Aegir** » 27 Aug 2005 11:47

I see no-one has yet physically assaulted me for taking out both the and layouts. Good, because they aint going back in anytime soon

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wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 27 Aug 2005 12:05

Aegir wrote:Proudly Presenting:
Project Generic Stations v1.2 Preview 3
A joint project between the members of the TT-Forums
In DOS and Windows flavors for your enjoyment.

OK ... and now for the good, the bad and the ugly:

(screen shot in brackets)

The Good:

Great graphics and everything fits (all)
Freight (hotshot) - main building also on opposite side of tracks
Freight (hotshot) - train does not enter empty tile.
Country (rimshot) - added freight building.
Silverline (screamshot) - Consistent with other pgs stations.

The Bad:

Basic (hotshot) - high level I available as single tile - other I tiles are not - why not?
Country (rimshot) - in North\South view, freight building should be on same side as station, as it is in East/West view
Silverline (screamshot) - needs overpass too.
Suburban (screamshot) - needs underpass too.
Silverline (screamshot) - building does not show when placing single tile - have to use minimum 2 track or 2 tile to get building
Silverline (screamshot) - 2 track placement only shows 2 buildings while Shelters shows 3 - why?

The Ugly:

You after reading this post? (hehe)

Aegir · Post by **Aegir** » 27 Aug 2005 12:28

Thanks Wallyweb, but everything in 'The Bad' category are simply things needing more sprites, I cant as a coder and very mediocre pixel painter do anything about them. Thanks for the compliments though!

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EDIT: Okay, one is a coding issue, Ill get right on it!

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 27 Aug 2005 12:33

Aegir wrote:Thanks Wallyweb, but everything in 'The Bad' category are simply things needing more sprites, I cant as a coder and very mediocre pixel painter do anything about them. Thanks for the compliments though! .

EDIT: Okay, one is a coding issue, Ill get right on it!

Allright Pixel Painters! Get in there and help this guy! NOW!

RK · Post by RK » 27 Aug 2005 14:55

Really good stations! I like them!

But I miss the stations with a platform on only one side. I prefer them, because they are more realistc (in germany).

Aegir · Post by **Aegir** » 27 Aug 2005 15:14

RK wrote:Really good stations! I like them!

But I miss the stations with a platform on only one side. I prefer them, because they are more realistc (in germany).

They might be realistic, but in TTD, the size between the platforms/tracks is simply too much, also they clutter the drop-down boxes too much, and especially in the case of Borns freight stations, there isnt enough room to put them back in.

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 28 Aug 2005 08:48

It's a pity to lose the I and S stations, but the addition of Born Acorns "blank concrete" should be really good to use.

Kudos to Aegir for coding one of the features I have been waiting for for AGES.

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lobster · Post by **lobster** » 28 Aug 2005 18:27

awesome, will look a.s.a.p.

and Aegir, to get back at those country freight stations: i think the old one really looks inferior to the new ones. so i'd be pleased if you at least took the old country freight sprites out. we'll discuss the new ones as soon as i made that mock-up.

Aegir · Post by **Aegir** » 30 Aug 2005 08:17

Okay, Ill rip the freight station out, its got buggeh coding anyway.

Now, when I get to releasing the full 1.2, I will be doing it in a brand new thread. This one is starting to get too big for me to rummage through, and the first post will be maintained with the latest information about the set as a whole, progress, download locations, and so forth. Synced with that, Ill finish my website for P:GS, and me and the readme will be polished off.

Now, I have a question. Do people want the main release as one .grf, or keep the seperate .grf style I'm using currently in the pre builds? I personally like the idea of keeping the seperate .grf's for things such as the basic platforms and the bare tiles, with one whole .grf for the actual stations. Im even thinking of going as far as seperating the bare platforms and bare tiles into seperate releases, to keep Project Generic Stations to what Im intending, Generic Stations. For the pre-releases though, it'll all be seperate .grfs. No negotiation with that one, it makes the entire set so much easier to work with, and merging for major releases is relativly easy.

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 30 Aug 2005 09:17

Aegir wrote: it makes the entire set so much easier to work with, ...

Which also applies to maintenance post release and game play ... leave it as it is.

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 30 Aug 2005 10:21

agreed, separate grf's are much more practical.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 30 Aug 2005 13:05

I find one big GRF to be much more practical.

When your site is ready, I'll take down mine. Actually I should probably just take it down as it's so obsolete.

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