European Cargo Set (ECS) - PROJECT LEADER NEEDED!

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 19 Jul 2005 16:50

Because i was thinking of making the website, i pretrawled the thread and saved every sprite, i opened the folder Prt Scr 'ed it and saved as .png, this might make it easier for you to make a tracking table??

Tell me what you think
James

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 19 Jul 2005 17:14

Wile E. Coyote did some work on a tracking table. I don't know yet if he's willing to maintain it. If so, we can combine it in our website. Jamesvassie, would you be interested in making a website?

Besides, we need some hosting, (or do we already got some, but I forgot?)

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 19 Jul 2005 17:31

If you look back a page or too, i posted a link with the website homepage, i can then link off to things like the tracking table, screenshots etc.

Would this be ok?

James

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 19 Jul 2005 17:35

Yes, sure.

Stupid me didn't see the link in your sig

Anyways, I'll send you the tracking table I got from Wile E Coyote.

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 19 Jul 2005 17:57

OK, I could maintain tracking tabe, just supply me with other missing pics. (Also is needed to renew list because there is for example wagon with siliding sides and several H-series wagons.)

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 19 Jul 2005 18:14

Ok, anybody interested in searching for the missing pics?

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 19 Jul 2005 18:39

I'll try to find some.

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 19 Jul 2005 18:46

I'll try to find some.

Me too, just as long as i know what im searching for...!

Could you not just post the tracking table here Purno? I dont mind, i replied to your PM

James

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 19 Jul 2005 20:35

Or upload it? I took a look on table and I have some suggestions. This is my suggestion of tracking table. What you think about it?
(UiC codes with ? mean those codes are not complaining with UiC nomenclature)

Temperate, arctic and tropic vehicles:

Self-unloading hoppers:
Falns/it's the same as Falls/Wap? (I found pic on Net)
Fall/Wa?
Fcs
Faccs/Sas?
Fccpps
Small tankers:
Z (missing UiC code)
Long tankers:
Zaes/Zaens/Zagks/Zagkks/Zacs etc. (missing UiC codes)
Roof opening cars:
Takkls
Talls
Tbis
Sliding-wall cars:
Habis/probably similar as Habilns
Hbis
Hadgs
Small freight cars:
Gbgs/Gbqs
(I could add Gkks)
Long freight cars:
Gags
(I could add Gabs and Gas)
Long open freight cars:
Eas/Uas?
Vsa?
Small open freight cars:
Es
Flat cars:
Rgs (probably Raven's cars and Purno's with goods and wood)
Flat cars for steel (and maybe paper):
Shimns
Shimmns/Sahimmns
Sclmmnps
Long gondola:
Res
Small gondola:
Kgs (missing in table)
Long wagons silos:
Uacs/Raj?
Small wagons silos:
Uc (missing in table)
Autoracks:
L-series
Refrigerator:
Ibbhps
Water hopper:
?
Wine carrier:
?
Livestock cars are missing. Do you plan to use freight cars (as in Serbian set) or draw new ones?

Maybe to put toyland vehicles in separate tracking table or even separate project?

Here are some pics (I can't find Sclmmnps):

Snail · Post by **Snail** » 19 Jul 2005 22:15

Are you planning to draw old-time freight wagons, too? The French set will need lots of them... from open to closed vans, and tankers, too...

Right now, the best old freight cars I've seen are from the Polish set

Are you guys planning to include any?

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 20 Jul 2005 07:54

Snail wrote:Are you planning to draw old-time freight wagons, too? The French set will need lots of them... from open to closed vans, and tankers, too...

We should include those too, IMO. However, if we use too much IDs the ECS and any other set are probably not compatible.

Besides, it seems most of the sets make their own cargo carriages

hydrolog · Post by **hydrolog** » 20 Jul 2005 18:53

Look at this site: http://www.parostroj.net/katalog/nv/images.php

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 20 Jul 2005 19:08

Seems like a interesting website. Thanks!

Snail · Post by **Snail** » 21 Jul 2005 00:21

Purno wrote:However, if we use too much IDs the ECS and any other set are probably not compatible.

That's true. Well, IMHO a good way of finalizing the ECS would be to make it as a "repository" set containing as many types of wagons as possible, so that national sets could be able to pick only the models they need. It would be pretty much impossible to let the entire ECS be compatible with each and every particular set out there, as the number of engines and wagons changes from set to set.

Speaking of the French set, for instance, we already have a list of needed carriages; if similar models were included in the ECS, we could pick them and add them to our set, maybe with only some slight changes, and giving credit to the European Cargo Set for our freight wagons. It would be great for us, as it'd spare us a lot of development time.

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 21 Jul 2005 08:49

So, any opinions about tracking table? I could renew it ASAP (and I could supply it with some missing data).

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 21 Jul 2005 09:54

Looks fine, however, I wonder if the images you used were you own, or copyrighted by someone else?

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 21 Jul 2005 15:10

All images are from this topic (except 3 I posted here, I googled and found them - I haven't seen from which site, but I could find it).
And what about suggestion for renew table? Is it acceptable or to keep existing?

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 21 Jul 2005 15:16

I think the table is good enough for now. But I don't know about these pictures in the table, some of them are probably copyrighted. We could of course just upload them and wait until someone says we've to remove them

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 21 Jul 2005 15:22

OK so I'll resize these 3 and send them together with tracking table filled with some data (some wagons are the same used in Serbia: Eas, Es, Faccs etc.)

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 21 Jul 2005 16:04

Yay! PROGRESS!!!!!!

Just email anything you want uploaded to the web and ill have it done in a jiffy,

only problem is im going on holiday tommorrow for 3 weeks.

James

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