Lusitania wrote:ok, i'll give up
Thats what I didn't ask you to do!!

Keep going at it, I am just saying it doesn't look right for me. I think I know why, try bringing the front out a bit and round it off, it may look better. The doors just need to be a bit narrower, sort of like this render shot of my object, which I created for Trainz not so long ago. Yes, its a Leyland National derivitive vehicle:
<-- about 3 years Max modelling expereince and totally loving it!

(BTW Lusitania, I was ready to give up at a lot of points on the way, in the end, I stuck at it, now look at my models. Can you picture yourself in this position? I can!)