Snail wrote:Yes. I can also write "Renault" after the capacity.
So the final name would be "Saviem SC10 R Renault"?
No, the name will stay "Saviem SC10". And the capacity will be written as "xx passengers (Renault SC10 R)"
Snail wrote:I've uploaded updated version of the long buses. You can see Inbus U210, U210FT, AU280FT, AS280FT there.
I noticed! Great job, they all look really good.
I tried. But you can see how much time it takes. I hope you like the result.

You did a good research and I tried to make as good graphics as your research. As you also can see, U210(FT) is available since 1981 while AU(S)280FT is available since 1985. I've used this way of coding for the first time and not sure if it works 100% properly, but I hope you'll test it
Snail wrote:I still couldn't find the time to download and test them, but the pics you posted are neat. On the AU/AS280FT's diagonal view though, isn't the third door (the one just before the 3rd axle) a bit too "attached" to the wheel? Maybe it'd look a bit better if it were put a little more forward, what do you think?
On the drawing it is near. But if you think it will look better if I move it, just write me and I shall change it, it is not hard.
Snail wrote:I didn't find the drawing for S210 (did I missed it or have nor send to me?)
Honestly I can't check now, as I've got the drawings on another computer, but all I can remember was finding some pics of the S210 and data about its capacity and speed (40 sitting + 60 standing, 80 km/h). I'll try to see if I've got a drawing too. However, would it really be a problem to draw the sprite without a specific drawing? The S210's bodywork was exactly the same as the three-door U210's one, with the exception that the rear door was missing. You could use the AS280FT's drawing to model the bus' back right (behind the last axle), which would be the only difference. It'd be a shame to leave it out
I can if you are sure, that the rare part is the
exactly same as AS280FT's
Snail wrote:and stil not sure about small version. Is it Inbus S150/U150 or GMG Siccar 181C?
The final name was Inbus S150/U150, which changed to S150FT/U150FT after the articulated version had been launched in around 1983 (same as the larger U/S210). The other name you found on the drawing was referred to a prototype (you can see the drawing was done in 1978, the same year when the first units were made).
You mean I have to move starting year from 1981 to 1979?
Snail wrote:Siccar was one of the firms which would build the model, as the Inbus name referred to a joint-venture of many firms that would produce buses together. So Siccar 181C was that particular firm's "official" name, but the model was known as S/U150.
For me Siccar sound better then Inbus

But if we decided to call it Inbus 2xx series, it should be Inbus U(S)150 then
Snail wrote:As in the larger models, the S designed the two-door variant (drawn) and the U the three-door one (looked the same as the S, but it featured a third door, as large as the second one, which replaced the last window).
I use U210 name for 3 door version and U210FT for 4 door version. If S210 and S210FT would have 2 doors both, what should be the graphical difference?
Snail wrote:As for liveries, could you let the coloured stripe appear after 1983, when the AU/AS280FT's where introduced and the other models' name gained the FT suffix? Historically, until that date, that stripe was always black, or there was no stripe at all.
If you will suggest other place for players colour (roof, for example, or the whole body) than ok. If there is no place for player colours - then I don't like the idea
Snail wrote:I'd also let some AS280FT's appear in a blue livery, although not too frequently (let's say about 1/8 of the times) if possible...
1/2, 1/4, 3/4, 1/8, 3/8, 5/8, 7/8 ... are possible
Snail wrote:If you need any info when you start drawing the 421's, feel free to ask!

Sure. I'll start it tomorrow.