New Temperate carriage (Done)

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 16 Feb 2004 20:05

I think, at the least, that your first carriage there should be included in the Tropicset.

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 03 Mar 2004 23:27

Dinges, I don't know if your site is up or down at the moment, but I can't acces it so could you add the first carriage ( temperate one ) to your site?

I did register before I couldn't access it anymore

Dinges · Post by **Dinges** » 04 Mar 2004 14:53

It is up, right now.

please wait while I add it...

Dinges · Post by **Dinges** » 04 Mar 2004 15:02

Done... http://ttdgraphics.cjb.net/graphid.php?id=55

EDIT: Juck, FTP is down, can't upload files...

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 04 Mar 2004 15:50

thanks, owe ya one

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 04 Mar 2004 17:24

when you can upload here is a suitable small pic.

Dinges · Post by **Dinges** » 05 Mar 2004 19:08

Born Acorn wrote:when you can upload here is a suitable small pic.

Heh, my account seems to be set up again, I already upped it, please wait while I set the image up in the database.

EDIT: Done... http://ttdgraphics.cjb.net/graphid.php?id=55 , happy downloading.

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 05 Mar 2004 22:23

thanks again

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 06 Mar 2004 00:37

how would I add new grpahic to your site? email you or Pm you or upload them myself somehow?

I have made an 'intercity livery sh125

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 06 Mar 2004 00:44

The standalone graphics don't get used much anymore, it's mostly all sets now. I would think it would make the most sense to contribute this graphic to the BR set, where it logically belongs.

If you are seeking new outlets for your artistic talent, there are quite a large number of unclaimed things in the US set still. If you want something more complex, the Japan set is needing some steam locomotives and I think a few DMUs and EMUs yet, you seem to be good at those.

Prof. Frink · Post by **Prof. Frink** » 06 Mar 2004 00:54

krtaylor wrote:The standalone graphics don't get used much anymore, it's mostly all sets now.

If you were to make livery overrides for some of the TTD standard engines, I'd use it...
Would require NFO coding though...

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 06 Mar 2004 09:39

if it was for the BR set, it would be a blue HST125, i need to get into nfo coding, anyone know any tutorials?

Dinges · Post by **Dinges** » 06 Mar 2004 10:00

Born Acorn wrote:if it was for the BR set, it would be a blue HST125, i need to get into nfo coding, anyone know any tutorials?

Maybeh on tha tiki

, or I'll write another one somewhere around here...

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 06 Mar 2004 15:53

Yes, there is lots of (somewhat cryptic) info on the Wiki.

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 06 Mar 2004 19:26

I want to do a set in the future, and want to know all the stuff to make my own grf files and own nfo, pcx files.

So does anyone know any tutorials for graphics newbs?

(and Dinges, can you add the new 'intercity' sh125 to your site?

Oracle · Post by **Oracle** » 06 Mar 2004 20:07

There are no tutorials for newbies, to be honest.
The best way is to get your teeth stuck in doing a load of work and reading through newgrf.txt. If you have that document open all the time while you're making graphics, that's the best way you'll learn.
You will only get good at it by repeatedly actually putting it into practice. Looking at a few simple GRFs helps: the Tropicset is quite a good example, but don't look at the DB set whatever you do. (It's far too complicated.)
And then you have to start worrying about palettes too...

ChrisCF · Post by **ChrisCF** » 06 Mar 2004 20:14

Born Acorn wrote:if it was for the BR set, it would be a blue HST125, i need to get into nfo coding, anyone know any tutorials?

We've already got one in the original Executive Blue, and one in something which just about resembles the Swallow colours. Of course, I'd be able to tell you if I had a use for it if only people would pay attention to what we keep saying about JPEG screenshots

PS - the BR set will be GPL - to use other graphics in them, the licence needs to be compatible.

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 06 Mar 2004 20:43

thats why i made it as a standalone graphic, not to be part of the br set

I'd use png if I could.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 06 Mar 2004 20:59

Well, it's relatively rare that somebody will use one single vehicle, any given vehicle gets much more exposure as part of a complete set. You can try to do your own set if you like, but it is a little intimidating; you might be happier joining an existing set in progress and working on it, and thus "learning the ropes." And what ChrisCF was meaning about GPL isn't graphics format, all the graphics are GRF files and the GRF converter will accept GIFs or PNGs I believe. He meant the GPL license, in other words, it's free for people to use as long as they keep the credits and the license with it, and don't try to sell it. We've had some arguments over licensing before, which all seems rather pointless to me but apparently not everyone is so freewheeling.

ChrisCF · Post by **ChrisCF** » 06 Mar 2004 21:12

krtaylor wrote:He meant the GPL license, in other words, it's free for people to use as long as they keep the credits and the license with it, and don't try to sell it.

It's rather more than that. It means that people are able to modify the results are they see fit, and can't take it and use it in something which is more restrictive, e.g. the DB set. (The de-GPLing of that annoyed me quite a bit. You can learn quite a bit from looking at the DB set, and Michael has essentially stopped people from doing that. Not smart.)

JPEG is designed for photographs, where colour accuracy and resolution are not important, but to evaluate these graphics, the resolution needs to be tip-top and the colour needs to be visible in all its glory

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