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Polish Buildings as Objects

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This object NewGRF was made from sprites of the beautiful Polish Building Set 0.1 (credit goes to Sojita, TadeuszD and openttd-polska.pl).


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Update to v1.1:

-> Added parameters for the Scenario Editor.
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Very nice!! :bow:
Are you also planning to include the buildings that are in the most recent version 1.4?
(like the theater, cinema, stadiums, firestations, shoppingmalls, etc)
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Great! I'll try it right away :)
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Quast65 wrote: 20 Aug 2023 16:51 Very nice!! :bow:
Are you also planning to include the buildings that are in the most recent version 1.4?
(like the theater, cinema, stadiums, firestations, shoppingmalls, etc)

I'm not entirely sure, but I believe that 1.4 is actually older...

Nevertheless, I could pick and choose some additions for a future update; especially if the development of 0.1 is picked up again.
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It's really strange with those Polish buildings.
Version 1.4 lacks snow sprites and doesn't work in subarctic or alpine climates, but version 0.1 also can't work if another set of buildings is active. The fact that version 1.4 didn't even work before 1900, while version 0.1 did, would again suggest otherwise.
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The official development thread is here: https://openttd-polska.pl/showthread.php?tid=838

Polish Building Set 1.4 was developed by pAter and Sojita, and named "Polish building setV4" in-game) was published on April 16, 2013. It does not have any snow sprites.

It's replacement was developed by TadeuszD and named "Polish Building set 0.1", published on March 30, 2015. It includes a recode into NML and some snow sprites. It was noted as being still under development and not ready for game play yet (although I've had almost no issues with it).

On July 11, 2023 Warhauzer (TUFKA McZapkie) announced he would resume development and eventually publish the source code on GitHub. He is working through some inconsistencies between the last two releases.
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Well, a merge as objects would be nice ;-)
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A town set WITH objects would be pretty swank, too. Can we do that ?
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kamnet wrote: 23 Aug 2023 05:05 A town set WITH objects would be pretty swank, too. Can we do that ?
I think there will be a possible limit with IDs....
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kamnet wrote: 22 Aug 2023 19:19 The official development thread is here: https://openttd-polska.pl/showthread.php?tid=838

Polish Building Set 1.4 was developed by pAter and Sojita, and named "Polish building setV4" in-game) was published on April 16, 2013. It does not have any snow sprites.

It's replacement was developed by TadeuszD and named "Polish Building set 0.1", published on March 30, 2015. It includes a recode into NML and some snow sprites. It was noted as being still under development and not ready for game play yet (although I've had almost no issues with it).
Actually, my buildings are not in "v4". They were supposed to be in a refreshed set by TadeuszD (Polish Building Set 0.1), but that project was never released.

@chujo: great work! Could you create a parameter that allows to place buildings in the scenario editor only? I could then safely place specific buildings on my map of Poland for servers. Polish Lighthouses by yazalo has this functionality.
Try my Map of Poland 1024x1024 scenario :)
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chujo wrote: 20 Aug 2023 16:11 post01.png
This object NewGRF was made from sprites of the beautiful Polish Building Set 0.1 (credit goes to TadeuszD and openttd-polska.pl).
plb-o_preview.gif
Available via in-game content downloader.
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Thanks for any central European objects! The town hall and square, that's what I use in my games. Thanks!

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pAter wrote: 23 Aug 2023 15:26 Could you create a parameter that allows to place buildings in the scenario editor only? I could then safely place specific buildings on my map of Poland for servers.

It didn't occur to me that there would be demand for it.
So, I added one parameter for Scenario Editor plus another one for "Irremovability" for good measure (makes more sense for the Lighthouses newgrf, but it could come in handy....).

And while I'm updating, I thought I could add extra buildings as objects from your "v4" (per Quast65's suggestion).
The thing is, Polish Buildings Set 1.4.0 on BaNaNaS is licensed under CC-BY-SA v3.0 - but my objects are under GPL v2 (that's what I believed "0.1" to be).

Are you cool with me merging "v4" into it? (as the buildings themselves were supposed to be)
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chujo wrote: 25 Aug 2023 14:03 And while I'm updating, I thought I could add extra buildings as objects from your "v4" (per Quast65's suggestion).
The thing is, Polish Buildings Set 1.4.0 on BaNaNaS is licensed under CC-BY-SA v3.0 - but my objects are under GPL v2 (that's what I believed "0.1" to be).

Are you cool with me merging "v4" into it? (as the buildings themselves were supposed to be)
"Polish Building set v4" was made by Sojita only (probably), and you should ask him about permission. I remember that after I drew some buildings for TadeuszD (for his new set), he asked me to make them under the GPL license (probably GPL v2), instead of CC-BY-SA v3.0, to avoid problems with different licenses. So I did. I don't know if TadeuszD had permission from Sojita to use his buildings under the GPL license, but if he started developing it based on PBS v4, he probably had.

You can also try to contact them:
- Sojita: https://openttd-polska.pl/member.php?ac ... le&uid=472
- TadeuszD: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=57989 or https://openttd-polska.pl/member.php?ac ... le&uid=578
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the strangest thing is that the Polish set of buildings, and more precisely its latest version, does not have the so-called historical buildings, or it has but in a limited amount, completely disagrees with what is presented in the screenshots of the game
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pAter wrote: 25 Aug 2023 21:33
"Polish Building set v4" was made by Sojita only (probably), and you should ask him about permission. I remember that after I drew some buildings for TadeuszD (for his new set), he asked me to make them under the GPL license (probably GPL v2), instead of CC-BY-SA v3.0, to avoid problems with different licenses. So I did. I don't know if TadeuszD had permission from Sojita to use his buildings under the GPL license, but if he started developing it based on PBS v4, he probably had.

You can also try to contact them:
- Sojita: https://openttd-polska.pl/member.php?ac ... le&uid=472
- TadeuszD: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=57989 or https://openttd-polska.pl/member.php?ac ... le&uid=578

Alright, thanks.
Looks like it will take longer then I thought to sort it out, so before I start a high-school-like drama over voluntary licensing of fan-made mods for an open-source game, I'm gonna upload the version with parameters.
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Does anyone know, by the way, why in the polish building set you can't use most of the buildings, I mean these historic buildings
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gravelpit wrote: 30 Aug 2023 08:54 Does anyone know, by the way, why in the polish building set you can't use most of the buildings, I mean these historic buildings
There are two versions of "Polish building set" (see discussion above), so you're probably using the one without historic buildings.
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