Please... let me redesign the TTDPatch site...

Zeiram Wokaydo · Post by **Zeiram Wokaydo** » 17 Oct 2003 18:29

The site doesn't look very professional at the first look. I can remake it with no changes to the content of the site. If you notice - there's some annoying stuff: the font, it shouldn't be default or whatever it is, the background, let it be white instead of a regular TTD world.
And all this in .shtml and save thousends of hours.

And of course I propose this for free. Give me my chance before saying no...

Prof. Frink · Post by **Prof. Frink** » 17 Oct 2003 18:44

I like the TTDPatch site, partially from when I was on 56k, mostly text so it loaded instantaneosly.

I feel it would be more appropriate to create a download mirror, with all the files and whatever design you want, but leave the original site as it is.

antpocas · Post by **antpocas** » 17 Oct 2003 19:30

Heh. The TDDPatch site really needs a redesign. Make sure the size of the site is small, 150kb can take up to 50 seconds on Mozilla Firebird to load on a 56k modem. Oh, and make sure it's W3C XHTML Standards Compliant and W3C CSS Standards compliant. The web has seen more than enough "IE only" websites.

Post by **orudge** » 17 Oct 2003 19:50

antpocas wrote:Heh. The TDDPatch site really needs a redesign. Make sure the size of the site is small, 150kb can take up to 5 seconds on Mozilla Firebird to load on a 56k modem.

"Up to 5 seconds"? Let's say I have a speed of 3KB/s... that's 50 seconds. Or is that what you meant?

antpocas · Post by **antpocas** » 17 Oct 2003 19:53

orudge wrote:
antpocas wrote:Heh. The TDDPatch site really needs a redesign. Make sure the size of the site is small, 150kb can take up to 5 seconds on Mozilla Firebird to load on a 56k modem.
"Up to 5 seconds"? Let's say I have a speed of 3KB/s... that's 50 seconds. Or is that what you meant?

Argh. I meant 50 seconds, yes.

Zeiram Wokaydo · Post by **Zeiram Wokaydo** » 17 Oct 2003 20:03

The problem is that I need a reply from the TTDPatch site webmaster, I've searched a host for a long time and a few seconds ago I fond one, my site is http://www.zone.ee/ttdw yes I'm Estonian, and yes this site is still under construction because I don't have my files with me, the site is 70% complete. i hope there's no GTA fans around...

Make sure you visit it sometimes in the next month!

DominionSpy · Post by **DominionSpy** » 17 Oct 2003 21:29

Zeiram Wokaydo wrote:i hope there's no GTA fans around...

Why would you not want ME around?

Zeiram Wokaydo · Post by **Zeiram Wokaydo** » 17 Oct 2003 21:44

Well, I can't say you because if I do I'll have problems, and I'll get them anyway when you're going to visit my site (when it's up). GTA 4 fan, but no too much is ok!

DominionSpy · Post by **DominionSpy** » 17 Oct 2003 21:55

There's no such thing as GTA4... yet.

GTA: Vice City is the same engine as GTA III.
The next game (GTA: San Andreas) is also being desiged with this engine.
The game after that will technically be GTA4 (whether they call it that, or not), because they are designing a new engine for it.

nilsi · Post by **nilsi** » 17 Oct 2003 22:47

I do like the patch site as it is !
Just the necessary things :-)

Nils

way_2_fun · Post by **way_2_fun** » 17 Oct 2003 23:20

Frankly, I too like the site.
I don't give a --, what the site looks like, it has everything that I want, which is good enough for me. I like the TTD theme, I don't want it to change, I like the font, simple and easy to read. I don't want TTDpatch.net to change, if it does, well err, uh, I'll still use the patch but I'll be some pissed.

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 17 Oct 2003 23:44

Zeiram Wokaydo wrote:The site doesn't look very professional at the first look. I can remake it with no changes to the content of the site. If you notice - there's some annoying stuff: the font, it shouldn't be default or whatever it is,

I disagree. Everyone should be able to choose the main text font themselves, I hate websites that decide the font for me, and I always override it with a user CSS file.

the background, let it be white instead of a regular TTD world.
And all this in .shtml and save thousends of hours.

It's already written in PHP, but preprocessed on my computer before I upload it.

And of course I propose this for free. Give me my chance before saying no...

Go ahead and try, but it should follow these points:
- front page less than 50KB including all images (other pages may be larger), it must load fast
- menu generated from PHP, and easy to edit
- entire site must be easy to edit for me, with a plain text editor
- site must conform to the W3C standards
- site must work well in a text-based browser (I love my command line)
- no non-standard extensions, no flash, no Java
- must work 100% without Javascript (i.e. no Javascript navigation)

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 17 Oct 2003 23:44

antpocas wrote:Heh. The TDDPatch site really needs a redesign. Make sure the size of the site is small, 150kb can take up to 50 seconds on Mozilla Firebird to load on a 56k modem. Oh, and make sure it's W3C XHTML Standards Compliant and W3C CSS Standards compliant. The web has seen more than enough "IE only" websites.

I don't see how you could get it any smaller. Is it really too large for you? And it should already conform to the W3C standards, I test it regularly.

GoneWacko · Post by **GoneWacko** » 18 Oct 2003 09:06

http://www.zone.ee/ttdw/

Your site doesn''t look much more proffesional

Arathorn · Post by **Arathorn** » 18 Oct 2003 09:08

Patchman, could you change this:

This the source code released by Josef. Sometimes Marcin releases experimental versions which you can find at his site. Feel free to check!

To include Oskar's and Csaba's experimental patch sites?

Zeiram Wokaydo · Post by **Zeiram Wokaydo** » 18 Oct 2003 10:20

Well, I don't have any knowledge in .php, I was planning to do it in .shtml, and for the images, all the images I do are very optimized in .gif format. I think I'll come back in some months with my .php knowledge and then... well, wrong time, but I'll be back, maybe, if I got time..

In fact I only wanted to redesign it, 2 - 3 pictures here and there and it's all.

antp · Post by **antp** » 18 Oct 2003 10:29

antpocas wrote:Oh, and make sure it's W3C XHTML Standards Compliant and W3C CSS Standards compliant.

Like I did for mine : strict XHTML (valid contents), DIVs instead of TABLEs for the layout (valid structure), etc.

Zeiram Wokaydo · Post by **Zeiram Wokaydo** » 18 Oct 2003 10:30

Well, I don't have any knowledge in .php, I was planning to do it in .shtml, and for the images, all the images I do are very optimized in .gif format. I think I'll come back in some months with my .php knowledge and then... well, wrong time, but I'll be back, maybe, if I got time..

In fact I only wanted to redesign it, 2 - 3 pictures here and there and it's all.

GoneWacko wrote:http://www.zone.ee/ttdw/

Your site doesn''t look much more proffesional

I thought I put a text on the site, and it was something like UNDER CONSTRUCTION there's no way that anybody here is satisfied! Damn!

PS: I write all my pages in Notepad!

dominionspy wrote:There's no such thing as GTA4... yet.

GTA: Vice City is the same engine as GTA III.
The next game (GTA: San Andreas) is also being desiged with this engine.
The game after that will technically be GTA4 (whether they call it that, or not), because they are designing a new engine for it.

I ment Gta: 4 working title! I don't care about the engine, and I know it's San Andreas! But there's no proofs.

antp · Post by **antp** » 18 Oct 2003 10:31

Zeiram Wokaydo wrote:all the images I do are very optimized in .gif format.

Optimized PNG is better : smaller and free (i.e. no patents)

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 18 Oct 2003 11:13

Arathorn wrote:Patchman, could you change this:
This the source code released by Josef. Sometimes Marcin releases experimental versions which you can find at his site. Feel free to check!
To include Oskar's and Csaba's experimental patch sites?

I don't think most user would benefit from my site, more confuse.
And for the people here on the forums they see when I have something new

Zeiram Wokaydo: And I hate popups on sites

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