what signals to use for station with passing line?

[2007Alain2007]

Hi

I got a proble with singleing a bit of reail track could any of you guys or girls come up with a way to do it

The middle line is a two way track for trains that dont stop there

There are two platforms for trains to stop at

my proble is that

If i use entry signals the trains that anit stoping get stuck waiting for the plate forms to be free

If i use path signals the trains that are stoping block up the line if theres no free platforms for them

here is a picture and a save for openttd 0.7.2

what signals to use.png

what signals to use.sav

[Paltala]

done quickly, untested but will work, terminus unchanged

what signals to use2.sav

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[2007Alain2007]

Hi Paltala

Thank you i just tested it but there is one bug if there is a train stop or borken down in the midel line it all stop

Say a slow train gos down the midel line should not the faster train go down the free path and over track the slower one

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The train at the butom should just go along the platform becuse the path is free to were it wants to go but the A2C trains only use the midel line to run on what is very odd

[petert]

Hi Paltala

Thank you i just tested it but there is one bug if there is a train stop or borken down in the midel line it all stop

Say a slow train gos down the midel line should not the faster train go down the free path and over track the slower one

The train at the butom should just go along the platform becuse the path is free to were it wants to go but the A2C trains only use the midel line to run on what is very odd

Going through the platform counts as a penalty, since the train must stop when entering platform, then the train would rather just wait for the train in the middle lane to pass. I hope I explained that clearly, tell me if it sounds confusing.

Here is what I would use:

[planetmaker]

Going through the platform counts as a penalty, since the train must stop when entering platform, then the train would rather just wait for the train in the middle lane to pass. I hope I explained that clearly, tell me if it sounds confusing.

Even though a station is a penalty to the path finder, if one uses non-stop orders a train won't stop in a station even though it passes through it.

Another solution thus would be to use non-stop orders for the trains and build a station with a dedicated track for each direction and one or two bi-directional tracks in the middle.

simple in-line two-way roro

Eastborough Transport, 09-03-2000.png (39.33 KiB) Viewed 3619 times

(No, there are not two signals missing)

[petert]

Even though a station is a penalty to the path finder, if one uses non-stop orders a train won't stop in a station even though it passes through it.

Another solution thus would be to use non-stop orders for the trains and build a station with a dedicated track for each direction and one or two bi-directional tracks in the middle.

Good idea planetmaker! I didn't even think to use non-stop orders. Usually with my building style, I don't like using stations as the passing lanes, but it sounds good here.

[2007Alain2007]

Dose this mean i got to tell the trains that there is a platform there but you can go non stop via it or some thing

Becuse all my trais are set to non stop but only got non stop odders to A2C or A2B2C2B

[petert]

Yes, non-stop, or non-stop-via, would work perfectly.

[2007Alain2007]

so the way to do what i want is to go for 3 lane platform or using 2 platforms and 2 passing loops

But hay i think i can live with that tell some one changes a path finder or a new signal

But if theres more ideas about i could help me in a game

[petert]

I understood most of that, and what you said was correct.

[sean16]

if you want a passing line in the middle, then just remove the platform there. Then use the same signal arrangement. This will make the track the same as in the original post.

[Paltala]

if you want a passing line in the middle, then just remove the platform there. Then use the same signal arrangement. This will make the track the same as in the original post.

you do realise that is effectively mu design but wont work due to the doubling up of the 2way pbs

[lazy_train323]

I ad only one normal signal in the middle, and service depot in each way. If I may?



edit: 15.09.2009 at 16.30PM

[2007Alain2007]

Theres a proble with how you did it

Strathhill Transport, 9th Dec 1965.png

evern if i put depots there the trains are to long to use them and block the hole line up

[lazy_train323]

Problem haw you did it?

Sorry. What did I do wrong?

[2007Alain2007]

If there are 4 trains two in the platforms and two going each way it block up with the two trains trying to go down the center line

[lazy_train323]

Please look where I did set train service depots.
I don't see much problems, if train goes sometimes mad direction, and get to where we wont like.

But at time from depot train can find direction easily, and hide it self for others who want to pass.