North American Road Vehicles

NCarlson · Post by **NCarlson** » 13 Jul 2007 04:58

Has there every been an attempt at a North American road vehicles set? Any reason why not (if not) or is it just that has no one gotten around to it?

Post by **PikkaBird** » 13 Jul 2007 05:00

NCarlson wrote:Has there every been an attempt at a North American road vehicles set? Any reason why not (if not) or is it just that has no one gotten around to it?

I know of one under development (well, it's more of a generic set, but includes NA buses and trams as an option). It's mostly that no-one has gotten around to it.

NCarlson · Post by **NCarlson** » 13 Jul 2007 05:04

Do you have a link or is it being done quietly?

George · Post by **George** » 13 Jul 2007 07:16

NCarlson wrote:Has there every been an attempt at a North American road vehicles set? Any reason why not (if not) or is it just that has no one gotten around to it?

DanMacK drew some North American buses (Mack, Flxible, GMC, MCI), they are a part of LV4. I drew Navistar RDF-405 truck and Greyhound Scenicruiser bus. They are in LV4 too.
These are the only North American road vehicles I can remember for TTD

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 13 Jul 2007 11:13

NCarlson wrote:Has there every been an attempt at a North American road vehicles set? Any reason why not (if not) or is it just that has no one gotten around to it?

Good question.

There is a definite need for a North American RV set for a region where bus travel often pre-empts rail travel and trucking is a significant participant in cargo transport.

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 13 Jul 2007 13:30

As Pikka said, there's one in progress, the people working on it are just preoccupied with other projects at the moment, but rest assured, it is being worked slowly as we speak.

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 13 Jul 2007 15:49

DanMacK wrote:As Pikka said, there's one in progress, the people working on it are just preoccupied with other projects at the moment, but rest assured, it is being worked slowly as we speak.

Good answer.

There is a definite need for a North American RV set for a region where bus travel often pre-empts rail travel and trucking is a significant participant in cargo transport.

/me hides from an avalanche of well tossed trout.

Post by **Dave** » 13 Jul 2007 15:54

PikkaBird wrote:
NCarlson wrote:Has there every been an attempt at a North American road vehicles set? Any reason why not (if not) or is it just that has no one gotten around to it?
I know of one under development (well, it's more of a generic set, but includes NA buses and trams as an option). It's mostly that no-one has gotten around to it.

I smell a rat

ISA · Post by **ISA** » 13 Jul 2007 15:54

We also would need articulated RV-s cuz afaik those North American vehicles are so damn big! Not all but most of them

I don't know how I could call them, maybe trucktrains or smth like that!

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 13 Jul 2007 16:08

ISA wrote:We also would need articulated RV-s cuz afaik those North American vehicles are so damn big! Not all but most of them I don't know how I could call them, maybe trucktrains or smth like that!

"Tractor/Trailers", "Big Rigs". "Semis" or simply "trucks" are the terms we use.

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 13 Jul 2007 16:32

I can also confirm that Semi trucks are planned for this set. I'm rather close to the developers on this one. Once a couple of other projects are out of the way, I'm sure they'll be devoting their time to Road vehicles.

SkeedR · Post by **SkeedR** » 13 Jul 2007 17:07

ISA wrote:We also would need articulated RV-s cuz afaik those North American vehicles are so damn big! Not all but most of them I don't know how I could call them, maybe trucktrains or smth like that!

The word you'd be looking for is RoadTrain. But i doubt they have lorries quite that big in NA. Never the less, proper arctic lorries would be awesome!

Bilbo · Post by **Bilbo** » 13 Jul 2007 17:15

Road trains are quite common in Australia (truck + 2 attached trailers and you easily get to 100m length ... just enable adding another trailes to a truck? :)

Post by **Dave** » 13 Jul 2007 20:39

Bilbo wrote:Road trains are quite common in Australia (truck + 2 attached trailers and you easily get to 100m length ... just enable adding another trailes to a truck?

But not in the US.

In theory, I don't think there's much difference between American semis and British artics, except the American ones are just ten times as beefy.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 13 Jul 2007 20:51

The most common US semis are singles. Doubles aren't particularly notable, though, and even triples aren't unheard-of. I've never seen a quad, though.

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 13 Jul 2007 21:40

Here is a typical 2-trailer truck unloading a shipment of wood chips. The location is in Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada so I see many of these units.

Click on the "tips the whole truck" link on the page.

In Firefox, you will have to clear your cache in order to replay it.

OzTrans · Post by **OzTrans** » 13 Jul 2007 22:00

wallyweb wrote: ... Here is a typical 2-trailer truck unloading a shipment of wood chips.

In our neck of the woods, that is a B-Double ... because road trains are prohibited on most roads, they came up with these, which are limited to 26 m and can carry a 20ft and a 40 ft container.

BTW, road trains, prime mover plus 2 trailers are about 32 m and not up to 100 m. The longest road trains, prime mover plus 5 cattle trailers, reach about 72 m and are only ever to be found on outback roads in Australia.

OBrown · Post by **OBrown** » 15 Jul 2007 18:35

Once in a while along Interstate 5 (I-5, the 5, that westernmost freeway/autobahn in the US, whatever you want to call it) in Oregon I see a double (cab, trailer, trailer behind first trailer), or triples (throw in a third trailer), they're for the most part either flatbeds with a shipping crate on em, or a box-car that's built onto the wheel assembly, whatever it's called). Prolly would see at least one a week if I lived closer to the freeway. Oregon has laws that pretty much restrain triples to the freeway and a very short distance from it because they're a little dangerous near intersections). I've only heard of long trucks being referred to as doubles or triples, though. Just some useless info. Heh.

duffman74au · Post by **duffman74au** » 20 Jul 2007 11:02

there is a type of road train in the us but it consisits of two 20ft trailers im not sure but i think in circles over there they call it a michigan train or something similar im pretty sure its named after a city any way

Post by **PikkaBird** » 20 Jul 2007 11:31

DaleStan wrote:The most common US semis are singles. Doubles aren't particularly notable, though, and even triples aren't unheard-of. I've never seen a quad, though.

I have done some research on the Australian situation, and despite common lore to the contrary the situation here is not much different to that in the US; Singles and doubles are by far the most common, quads are extremely rare and are subject to special regulations, and anything longer is prohibited on public roads.

The maximum number of trailers I'd allow in any grf would be 2 or 3, depending on the cargo.

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