TTDLX in Hasbro's "Tycoon collection"

[Mike Wagstaff]

Hi!

I have a few questions regarding TTDLX in Hasbro's "Tycoon
Collection". First, is it the proper, latest version of
TTDLX, rather than just an ehanced version of the original
with the scenario editor bolted on?

Secondly, is it a native Win32 app, rather than the DOS-based
version which I have currently? I only ask because ideally
I'd like to play it under Win 2000 (yes, I know!!).

Thanks!

-Mike [http://games.hplx.net]

P.S. A big "Thank you!" to all the hard-working TT site
owners out there for the excellent sites, and Josef for his
simply amazing patch!

[Steve]

In article <43812854911745NEWS...@news.dial.pipex.com>, Mike Wagstaff
<a...@dial.pipex.com> writes:

I have a few questions regarding TTDLX in Hasbro's "Tycoon
Collection". First, is it the proper, latest version of
TTDLX, rather than just an ehanced version of the original
with the scenario editor bolted on?

Latest version? As far as I know, there's only one version of TTDLX...

Secondly, is it a native Win32 app, rather than the DOS-based
version which I have currently? I only ask because ideally
I'd like to play it under Win 2000 (yes, I know!!).

Thanks!

Bleh. It's DOS based, and always will be, because DOS is the best OS of all
time.
-----STEVE!-----

"I need a better sig." -Me

[Simon Howson]

Hi,

The version is a WIN32 version, it uses DirectX 2, but runs with DirectX 7.0
fine. It does not run on pure DOS.

It was a conversion by FISH (UK) LTD. Who helped Sawyer on RCT.


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[Steve]

I stand corrected.
-----STEVE!-----

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[Mike Wagstaff]

The version is a WIN32 version, it uses DirectX 2, but runs with DirectX 7.0
fine. It does not run on pure DOS.

Excellent. That's what I was hoping.

-Mike [http://games.hplx.net]

[Mike Wagstaff]

Latest version? As far as I know, there's only one version of TTDLX...

What I meant to check was that it was not just TTO + World
editor, which I seem to remember was once missold as TTDLX
(maybe I'm just imagining this!). So long as Josef's patch
works with it, I'll be happy!

Bleh. It's DOS based, and always will be, because DOS is the best OS of all
time.

This is now going to get slightly off-topic, methinks! <g>
Why exactly do you think that is DOS the best OS of all
time?

-Mike [http://games.hplx.net]

[Patchman]

In article <375152852393065NEWS...@news.dial.pipex.com>, Mike Wagstaff
says...

The version is a WIN32 version, it uses DirectX 2, but runs with =
DirectX 7.0
fine. It does not run on pure DOS.

Excellent. That's what I was hoping.

Does anybody know if my patch works with this one? It's unlikely, but
not entirely impossible. Otherwise I may have to buy it...

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[Steve]

In article <370382852393585NEWS...@news.dial.pipex.com>, Mike Wagstaff
<a...@dial.pipex.com> writes:

Latest version? As far as I know, there's only one version of TTDLX...

What I meant to check was that it was not just TTO + World
editor, which I seem to remember was once missold as TTDLX
(maybe I'm just imagining this!). So long as Josef's patch
works with it, I'll be happy!

Really? I've never heard that... the TTO thing.

Bleh. It's DOS based, and always will be, because DOS is the best OS of =
all
time.

This is now going to get slightly off-topic, methinks! <g
Why exactly do you think that is DOS the best OS of all
time?

Well... let's see... DOS itself doesn't crash, as opposed to WinBlowz. Only the
programs crash DOS... no worries about memory... you don't have to worry about
IRQ and settings if there's a conflict... etc...
-----STEVE!-----

"I need a better sig." -Me

[chunky]

Steve wrote in message <19991206063305.20138.00000...@ngol01.aol.com>...

...DOS... no worries about memory... you don't have to worry about

<asbestos pants>
No worries about memory?? 640k, hello?!
</asbestos pants>

cheers...
chunky
(reply address is spam protected)
http://go.to/chunky

[Chris Locke]

The version is a WIN32 version

So I wonder if this means it will work better with the SB sound cards.....
*sigh of relief*

[Chris Locke]

Oooh, I love these arguments. No-one wins, but everyone likes to chip in -
like so many great online debates......

DOS itself doesn't crash, as opposed to WinBlowz
Windows doesn't crash either - a program in the Windows environment

crashes... just like a program in a DOS environment can crash. (Or 'hang'
.... sounds less drastic)

no worries about memory
Chunky has said what I was going to say...

you don't have to worry about IRQ and settings
Hmmm - in DOS, my TTDX installation asks me IRQ and DMA settings... and I

have to ensure my soundcard has the same settings... but I guess you're
right - I don't exactly lay awake worrying about them.

etc...
Exactly.

And thats my point, see? What are you worried about?
"I'm worried about what you've got against the birds."

Sorry - slipped into add-some-lines-from-Monty-Python mode.....

[Colin Smith]

I have an SB Live! value and it doesn't seem to work at all for me. How
bizarre. RCT works fine and always has.

The game launcher gives four options, No Midi, General Midi, FM
Synth/SoundBlaster, and SoundBlaster AWE32. Tried them all, none work.
Damn.

Colin

Chris Locke <c...@locke.junglelink.co.uk> wrote in message
news:82h9jv$ia$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...

The version is a WIN32 version

So I wonder if this means it will work better with the SB sound cards.....
*sigh of relief*

[Chris Locke]

This is a known problem - and boils down to the SB16 emulation.
There is a patch for it on the Creative website.

Tycoon also only really likes IRQ 5 ... so make sure your card is hard set
to this (yes, I know Tycoon allows other settings!!)

This may (or may not) help!!

[Mike Wagstaff]

What I meant to check was that it was not just TTO + World
editor, which I seem to remember was once missold as TTDLX
(maybe I'm just imagining this!). So long as Josef's patch
works with it, I'll be happy!


Really? I've never heard that... the TTO thing.

OK. Maybe that was my imagination!

This is now going to get slightly off-topic, methinks! <g
Why exactly do you think that is DOS the best OS of all
time?

Well... let's see... DOS itself doesn't crash, as opposed to WinBlowz. Only the
programs crash DOS... no worries about memory... you don't have to worry about
IRQ and settings if there's a conflict... etc...

It's true what you say about DOS being more reliable than
Windows, but as the other posts say, it's not true about the
memory / IRQ stuff. Plus, while the Microsoft monopoly might
not be great for all things, at least it ensures that
programs are more or less consistent, and generally far easier
to use (if not always quicker) than their DOS counterparts.

-Mike [http://games.hplx.net]

[Trikky]

chunky <chu...@bigfoot.takeyourspamandshoveit.com> wrote in message
news:82h57o$78d$1@gxsn.com...

...DOS... no worries about memory... you don't have to worry about
asbestos pants
No worries about memory?? 640k, hello?!
/asbestos pants

Yeah..But its MUCH easier to free up mem in DOS.
In Win its a bugger.

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[Paul Street]

I wish it did, I have both the DOS and Win32 versions, can't get the Patch
to work under DOS and won't on the Win32 version...... Please convert it to
Win32 as the patch is excellent.

P...@streeetp.freeserve.co.uk

Josef Drexler <jdrex...@julian.uwo.canada> wrote in message
news:MPG.12b4d9c623cd2289897a5@news1.on.sympatico.ca...

In article <375152852393065NEWS...@news.dial.pipex.com>, Mike Wagstaff
says...
The version is a WIN32 version, it uses DirectX 2, but runs with =
DirectX 7.0
fine. It does not run on pure DOS.

Excellent. That's what I was hoping.

Does anybody know if my patch works with this one? It's unlikely, but
not entirely impossible. Otherwise I may have to buy it...

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[Steve]

In article <82ha19$q...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Chris Locke"
<c...@locke.junglelink.co.uk> writes:

Windows doesn't crash either - a program in the Windows environment
crashes... just like a program in a DOS environment can crash. (Or 'hang'
.... sounds less drastic)

The resulting crash in Windoze usually causes EXPLORER to cause an illegal
fault.
-----STEVE!-----

"I need a better sig." -Me

[Steve]

In article <550602852276687NEWS...@news.dial.pipex.com>, Mike Wagstaff
<a...@dial.pipex.com> writes:

It's true what you say about DOS being more reliable than
Windows, but as the other posts say, it's not true about the
memory / IRQ stuff. Plus, while the Microsoft monopoly might
not be great for all things, at least it ensures that
programs are more or less consistent, and generally far easier
to use (if not always quicker) than their DOS counterparts.

I find Windoze programs much harder to set up, simply because of all the mess
with DirectX... I find that to be a real pain.
-----STEVE!-----

"I need a better sig." -Me

[Steve]

In article <82h57o$78...@gxsn.com>, "chunky"
<chu...@bigfoot.takeyourspamandshoveit.com> writes:

No worries about memory?? 640k, hello?!

In DOS you only run one thing at a time. You only use that 640 K for one thing.
Tada. No memory problems.
-----STEVE!-----

"I need a better sig." -Me

[Mike Wagstaff]

I find Windoze programs much harder to set up, simply because of all the mess
with DirectX... I find that to be a real pain.

Um... what problems with DirectX? I've never had a problem
with it after using it on 6 or 7 (totally different)
computers. Besides, I still remember having to edit the
Config.sys / Autoexec.bat to squeeze out those last few
precious kilobytes of memory required to run many DOS games.
Nightmare times!

Boot disks? Memmaker? 640 kb limit? Give me DirectX any day
of the week! I only wish that companies would rewrite many
of the old DOS classics (such as Wing Commander Privateer,
The Manager, Sensible World of Soccer) to work seamlessly
under Windows.

-Mike [http://games.hplx.net]