European Cargo Set (ECS) - PROJECT LEADER NEEDED!

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 15 Jun 2004 10:41

Ehmm... oh those ones *hehe*, yes I can see those too, when I took a closer look.

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 15 Jun 2004 12:29

You see, that is what I meant

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 15 Jun 2004 12:54

Saskia wrote:You see, that is what I meant

That you must have a closer look to see it, doesn't really matter. That's not a reason to be

.

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 15 Jun 2004 16:32

Wow, looks pretty good.

Just one question: Why are there two different widths of the white line?

rogiercreemers · Post by **rogiercreemers** » 15 Jun 2004 20:23

I think it's because in the "doors open" sprites, the doors are covering the upper half of the white stripes

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 15 Jun 2004 21:02

2 rogiercreemers:
somebody here does not know how Faccs hoppers work and it is not me.
The way you describe it works only Talls, which is a rebuilt Falls.
(scroll back thru this forum)

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 16 Jun 2004 09:12

rogiercreemers is right ... and this is/was a Faccs, not a Falls. Maybe Faccs is the wrong name now ... just a moment ... jep, it's a Taccs now

Next I draw Talls. Btw, I think it should be a refit option. Why? Because We have a Falls, which can't/mustn't transport grain, and a Talls, which doen't the same with coal and ore. It would be a waste of veh-IDs, if we don't take this chance to put Falls ans Talls together.

Maybe there's even an option to make vehicle names "refittable"

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 16 Jun 2004 13:58

Just one thing. I have allready started the Talls, so I'd finish it if you don't mind

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 16 Jun 2004 15:11

Oh sure, if it's like that, finish it

Looks good so far!

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 16 Jun 2004 19:04

sorry if I said it somewhat rude. Not in a good mode today.

Ps: Yes, I'd like to finish the Talls.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 17 Jun 2004 09:25

To be honest I lost total overview of this set.

First I had a excel list updated every time, which included all things that were made and that had to be made.

But when Saskia suggested some other way of making such a list, I stopped.

So, I think we really could use a list.

BTW: The progress indicator (the current 4%), is just increased time by time to show we're still working on the project, and that we're making progress. You should expect it's actually 4% done

Could be more or less, depending on how many cargo carriages we're going to do.

Besides that, as you probably have noticed, I didn't draw much cargo carriages in the past days. I'm quite busy with school unfortunately, but I hope this is soon over, since this year of school only lasts for about 3 weeks. I hope to draw some graphics in the vacation.

And I want to say to Colonel32 and Saskia: Great work!

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 17 Jun 2004 16:20

2 Purno, I'll finish the Talls and Uacs during the next three weeks, and I'll post them when I get back.

2 Saskia. If you wish to draw The Falls in other liverties, feel free to rework mine, I think that V1.2 is good enough.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 28 Jun 2004 16:33

i wouldn't have bumped this up to the top i hadn't new graphics, which i obviously had. New car carriers for white VW beetle (or whatever, but small)
also, a shunter diesel, which would go fine with the set IMO

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 29 Jun 2004 13:14

your car carrier looks much better than MB's

Oh, is this cute shunter a V36 or a Köf? Maybe it should even be included in a base set, as an early diesel engine.

The diagonal views of both looks a bit strange (too high), but otherwise very good.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 29 Jun 2004 13:20

The car carriers are very good indeed!!!

BTW: When 'll someone start coding???

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 30 Jun 2004 09:13

Sorry for holding you up, but first we need a "plan" of what will be included. And we should decide, what vehicles will be included in the base sets.

The dynamic list is still not working (*shame*

), so please continue your Excel table

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 05 Jul 2004 11:31

Raven wrote:i wouldn't have bumped this up to the top i hadn't new graphics, which i obviously had. New car carriers for white VW beetle (or whatever, but small)
also, a shunter diesel, which would go fine with the set IMO

Can i use the car carrier in Finnish Train Set?

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 09 Jul 2004 08:22

OK guys. Lets get something finished.

2 Purno: Can you update the XLS sheet?

2 Saskia: Something new about coding?

2 ALL: What should we draw now? I still have my Talls and Uacs (work in progress), but are there any other things that shoul be drawn? Or do we have everything that wee need for now?

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 09 Jul 2004 08:29

Colonel32 wrote:OK guys. Lets get something finished.

Colonel32 wrote:2 Purno: Can you update the XLS sheet?

I lost total overview of this project. I stopped updating the XLS sheet when Saskia announced to make another kind of table*.

Colonel32 wrote:2 ALL: What should we draw now? I still have my Talls and Uacs (work in progress), but are there any other things that shoul be drawn?

Well, I once made a list** of some stuff. But I would like if there came some requests for cargo cars. But not many*** reacted.

Colonel32 wrote:Or do we have everything that wee need for now?

We can always add things. We can make ECS**** as complex as possible.

* = What about such a table as with DB Passenger Set? (BTW: Where's the link to that table, it once was in your (Saskia's) sig.)
** = The XLS-spreadsheet
*** = Nobody
**** = European Cargo Set

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 09 Jul 2004 09:32

Coding: like I said a few posts above: I need to know what cars go into the national base sets, and then I can start coding the rest into the ECS.

Suggestions for other cars:
Heavy load wagon (Shim[mn]s) with steel coils (steel), a big trafo (goods), a big agrar machine (goods), and other cargos ...
Trailer carriers - the systems where you hook truck trailers onto bogies.
Self-discharger (first and last pictures): http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/car ... F/pix.html
Low sided cars are still missing: http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/car ... K/pix.html , http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/car ... R/pix.html
Such (first pictures) large silo cars for grain: http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/car ... U/pix.html

And another point: Habbins looks like a short two-axle wagon, but in reality it's around 28m(!): http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/car ... H/pix.html ... we should shorten the short cars, so that the long cars are not as short as short cars

Aw, and I removed the list from my sig, because it was out of date and had wrong values in it.

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