The 2ccSet: The Trains of the World in 2cc (Alpha available)

[Doorslammer]

Unfortunately I haven't played TT lately, I certainly should play TT in my next holidays starting next friday

No you shouldnt! You should draw more trains! Hehe.

I do have a few ideas as well, but lets talk about that later...

You have plenty in the other thread, don't you?

[3iff]

No, not that buggy at all...a few small graphic glitches that are barely noticable (but the set would be better without them) and a few numbers that need adjusting, but that's all.

It's also possible to block vehicles from various nations by setting parameters (although that somewhat defeats the whole idea of the set).

[DJ Nekkid]

it may be in an dev state, but i've not changed a single vehicle ID or anything that makes it uncomaptible in ... many months. And it is virtually bugless now as far as i can see. A small white line in the bottom of some of the old (as in, first added) view of some short vehicles, but it is afaik only on the gondola now. And as far as i can see (again) is all prices and such set to its final level.

I am concidering if the running costs actually are too high, atleast for cargodest games (according to my testing). But that is another chapter.

And Purno:

Perhaps i should post some from my latest game

[Roujin]

By the way, I tried using the parameters so that I only get European trains. It resulted in all other trains being still available but looking like one of the default locos. That's a bug I guess?..

[DJ Nekkid]

yes ... that smells like a bug indeed. Probably just as good, as i've thought about makeing a new system ...

Disable with:
parameter n = european trains, 1 = western eu, 2 = south eu, 4 = eastern eu, 8 = scandinavia (bit-thingy) (or perhaps alphabetically)
parameter n+1 = american trains, 1 = north, 2 = south
parameter n+2 = "the rest". 1 = africa, 2 = asia, 4 = oceania

or something similar, so that we dont need so many 1's after each other

[Purno]

I don't get it.

Could you show some examples of how your system would work?

[DJ Nekkid]

well, as it is now:
parameter 1 = economy
parameter 2 -> 10 = engine availability.

new suggestion:
Parameter 1 = economy
parameter 2 - reserved for future use
parameter 3 - ditto
parameter 4 - Disable European engines via bitsets (western,south,east,scandinavian)
parameter 5 - Disable American engines via bitsets (north,south)
parameter 6 - Disable "world" engines via bitsets (asian, african, osceanian)

[Purno]

Examples please

What if I want to disable North-European engines?

What if I only want to play with Asian engines?

[planetmaker]

new suggestion:
Parameter 1 = economy
parameter 2 - reserved for future use
parameter 3 - ditto
parameter 4 - Disable European engines via bitsets (western,south,east,scandinavian)
parameter 5 - Disable American engines via bitsets (north,south)
parameter 6 - Disable "world" engines via bitsets (asian, african, osceanian)

Uhm... why reserve parameters for future use? That's IMO not too useful[1]. If you then want to change the engine availability you have to add two completely unnecessary parameters. It doesn't hurt to add parameters later, does it? Or re-order, when new are introduced?

Not sure about the variable size a single parameter can take. 8 bit? 16 bit? If it's 16 bit I suggest to make engine availabilty only one single parameter (why more?), if it's only an uint8 (8bit), make it two at most.

[1] if it's sorting between engines and "other" like economy, make engines first (that will stay fixed) and you're free to add the amount of additional parameters later you like.

[DJ Nekkid]

as far as i know is it only a byte value. i.e. 0-255/0-xFF

But: i think most people would change economy rather then the engine avaiability. But it were merly a suggestion, nothing is set, but i probably will "fix" this during the xmas

[DaleStan]

Parameters are dwords. 32 bits wide.

Chances are that TTDPatch wants unsigned integers, but I don't guarantee that.

[planetmaker]

Parameters are dwords. 32 bits wide.

In that case I propose to keep the train availability indeed to one parameter. Powers of two aren't that difficult

DJNekkid: Of course, you're right, the economy setting is what is more often changed than availability... But if train selection is only one parameter it doesn't hurt to add that as 0, if you change settings at all.

Am I making sense? Argueing about typing two 0 more or less? Hm...

[DaleStan]

Unless you have some pressing plan for those reserved parameters, use "reserved, do not specify" rather than "reserved, specify as zero".

Of course, this requires that all reserved/undefined parameters be at the end of the parameter list.

[Purno]

Found a bug: A mail MU-wagon attached to a 811 DMU uses passenger wagon sprites.

[leaderfrontier]

Well,i find something that i don't know is bug or not...

1)The Tanker(LONG) .I think is TANKER(SHORT)

2)In desert mode,the Flatbed Wagon capacity was 50,000 litre of water.And there is no any wagon used to bring wood.

[LegendDragon]

Haha,I found that if Sharknose attach with 9 Flatbed Wagon-Long (Full load).It cannot drive to max speed(140km/h).It's speed only reach 135km/h.

[DJ Nekkid]

well, THAT is not a bug, that is basicly intentional. Not directly towards the sharknose, but engines cannot pull infinate tons behind itself before it starts to suffer its max speed.

[leaderfrontier]

well, THAT is not a bug, that is basicly intentional. Not directly towards the sharknose, but engines cannot pull infinate tons behind itself before it starts to suffer its max speed.

zzz.
basicly intentional?

Are this also count as one?

The ICM running cost was $1,263/year
And the 2cc XMU Pax Coach running cost is $16/year.

After i attach ICM with nine 2cc XMU Pax Coach.
The runnning cost become $12,632/year.
The most amazing was the the power become 6000.
This mean multiple by 10.

Here the attchment

[Benny]

I am not sure if this is correct, but doesen't the MU's have the same running cost as the train here? :

[leaderfrontier]

I am not sure if this is correct, but doesen't the MU's have the same running cost as the train here? :

Ops,the word are very dislike.

I have test with another Train(have those word) and i found that is was multiple.
Thanks