ECS vectors v1.1.2 (by George) 19/06/2011

[George]

can't open. Also please use PNG, not JPG.

It's a screenshot of whole network. File would weigh 75MB if I used PNG, hence JPG that weighs only 4,9MB. Perhaps that's the reason why it didn't load - it's still quite large and loads rather long. But this screenshot is not very important.

You can upload it to some file server and post a link

[Kooboo]

You can upload it to some file server and post a link

I deliberately converted huge png file to jpg for compression. Link from imageshack works. It worked even on my cell phone.
Uploading large file to servers to make someone download 75MB file that's hardly of any importance is pointless. Especially it's least important from my whole post. I actually regret putting it there, because of this whole nonsense.
Now let's drop the screenshot subject forever please.

[Eddi]

you know, if you leave things at the default 8bpp png format, images are usually smaller than jpgs at the same size

important details are often lost in a conversion to jpg. it was never intended for screenshots, only for photos. by design, jpg cannot display straight lines.

[wallyweb]

DOS versions and TTDPatch support were never tested.

... so I attempted to test your TTDP Win versions using r2366 with the following results:
ECSTownw.grf 0 0 0 31 0 - Invalid sprite #448 (code 6/6)

Code 6 = The given property number in action 0 is invalid

Code: Select all

<Sprite-number> * <Length> 00 <Feature> <Num-props> <Num-info> <Id> (<Property <New-info>)...
 448 * 10	 00 08 01 01 24 14 01 74 00 00

Action 0 Feature 8 (Global Variables) Property 14 (Gender/case translation table) is not supported by TTDPatch

Similarly:
ECSBas2w.grf 31 - Invalid sprite #456 (code 6/6)
ECSChem2w.grf 31 - Invalid sprite #433 (code 6/6)
ECSMachw.grf 31 - Invalid sprite #434 (code 6/6)
ECSWoodw.grf 31 - Invalid sprite #426 (code 6/6)
ECSAgriw.grf 31 - Invalid sprite #425 (code 6/6)

ECSHousew.grf 0 loads without errors.

I can continue testing after these are fixed.

[George]

I can continue testing after these are fixed.

please check rars at http://george.zernebok.net/temp/ECS1.2/

[wallyweb]

... please check rars at http://george.zernebok.net/temp/ECS1.2/

Thank you, George. The new GRFs loaded without problems. I will now continue with the previously scheduled test. Please allow a few days for results.

This is a free service from the wallyweb Institute for GRF Quality - TTDPatch Laboratory.

[George]

This is a free service from the wallyweb Institute for GRF Quality - TTDPatch Laboratory.

Issue with sand pit wrong graphics can't be fixed. At least I do not know how to fix it right. TTDP does bot support offsets for ground tiles.

P.S. I would not copy&paste sprites from trg1r.grf with new offsets. ECS should NOT have original sprites inside.

[andythenorth]

TTDP does bot support offsets for ground tiles.

Drop TTDP support and used advanced action 2 tile layouts? Not even sure that you need advanced for this, iirc ottd supports ground tile offsets in extended tile layouts.

[George]

TTDP does bot support offsets for ground tiles.

Drop TTDP support and used advanced action 2 tile layouts? Not even sure that you need advanced for this, iirc ottd supports ground tile offsets in extended tile layouts.

There is no problem in OTTD. It supports offsets. The problem happens in TTDP only.

[wallyweb]

This is a free service from the wallyweb Institute for GRF Quality - TTDPatch Laboratory.

Issue with sand pit wrong graphics can't be fixed. At least I do not know how to fix it right. TTDP does bot support offsets for ground tiles.

P.S. I would not copy&paste sprites from trg1r.grf with new offsets. ECS should NOT have original sprites inside.

I will take a look at the sand pit later today. First, I have found this:

IronOreMines.png (23.48 KiB) Viewed 4622 times

[Axlrose]

Wheee - first person to vote for the original patch only!!!

[George]

This is a free service from the wallyweb Institute for GRF Quality - TTDPatch Laboratory.

Issue with sand pit wrong graphics can't be fixed. At least I do not know how to fix it right. TTDP does bot support offsets for ground tiles.
P.S. I would not copy&paste sprites from trg1r.grf with new offsets. ECS should NOT have original sprites inside.

I will take a look at the sand pit later today. First, I have found this:

IronOreMines.png

This is bauxite mine. Under development.

[wallyweb]

... This is bauxite mine. Under development.

I suspected that might be the case. Maybe you could change the name until the bauxite mine is ready.
A suggestion: "placeholder".

[George]

... This is bauxite mine. Under development.

I suspected that might be the case. Maybe you could change the name until the bauxite mine is ready.
A suggestion: "placeholder".

It is above 80% complete.

[Eddi]

those rails look like they should be part of a station set matching the industries, not part of the industry itself.

[George]

those rails look like they should be part of a station set matching the industries, not part of the industry itself.

I hope someday it would be possible to make stations/rails/roads that are part of the industry (as we have heliports and docks for oil rigs now)
On that day whose rails would become ... rails and trains would pass through

[Yexo]

While docks and airports (and even road stations) can easily used by multiple companies, that doesn't go for rail stations. As such I find it unlikely that such a feature would be implemented anytime soon for rails.

The graphics are very good

[Eddi]

while the idea might sound intriguing at first, i think it's a bad idea to have builtin rail stations, since you cannot sensibly extend them (longer track, multiple tracks, separation between delivering and picking up), so it should really be left to the player to set up the station according to his needs.

[George]

while the idea might sound intriguing at first, i think it's a bad idea to have builtin rail stations, since you cannot sensibly extend them (longer track, multiple tracks, separation between delivering and picking up), so it should really be left to the player to set up the station according to his needs.

player is not forced to use in-industry station. Even in case of the current oil rigs, you can build a station nearby
Also, I said it would be rails, not railway station

[Simons Mith]

Just to clarify - is this going to be an industry-coloured area of land in which a player can place rails - or roads or tram tracks or whatever he chooses - or will it be an area of land where you get rails regardless of what would actually be useful? The first would be wonderful, but I'm you can tell from the tone of the question that I'd be dead against the second. In particular, the first option would hopefully let you have rail coming in at an angle, and you could presumably place signals and stuff, or convert the track to monorail later on, and things like that.