Why do they call it "OPEN" TTD?

[TTD Dude]

What does the "OPEN" stand for in the name Open TTD?

[rEXpert]

It stands for Open Source, meaning that anyone can make modifications/patches to the code to improve it.

[Roujin]

Actually, it is only open for viewing for everyone. (e.g. here)
You can of course suggest a particular change/patch, and if the developers like it, they will maybe adapt and include it.

It would be pretty chaotic if everyone could just alter the code

[Zutty]

Actually, it is only open for viewing for everyone. (e.g. here)
You can of course suggest a particular change/patch, and if the developers like it, they will maybe adapt and include it.

It would be pretty chaotic if everyone could just alter the code

No you CAN alter the code, just your own copy of it! The OpenTTD devs wouldn't allow you to use their repositories or to post it on openttd.org, but its still the same code.

If you wanted to you could fork the project and make whatever changes you like to it. You could even just change title and sell it on, as long as the code retains it original license and copyright notices. You CAN'T pass it off as your own though, or close the source up (i.e. change the license).

For instance if you found in a years time that the OpenTTD project had died and that no-one was interested in maintaining it anymore, you would have the right to take ALL the code and start up your own project to carry it on. That's how OSS works, and its how many projects get started/finished.

[michael blunck]

[...] as long as the code retains it original license and copyright notices.

What´s the "original license" and "copyright notices" for "OTTD"?

You CAN'T pass it off as your own though,

Isn´t that exactly what "OTTD" does?

regards
Michael

[belugas]

You CAN'T pass it off as your own though,

Isn´t that exactly what "OTTD" does?

Hahaha. Hilarious.
Now, why don't you go fixing your alpine grf, if you are sooo caring about copyrights?
You know, that grf YOU DID that has a LOT of ORIGINAL graphics with SMALL modifications that YOU distributed?
I don't see much a difference between YOUR status and OUR.
Don't you have anything more interesting to do?

[TTD Dude]

Thanks for the help and info you gave me about the meaning of OPEN in OpenTTD!

[michael blunck]

Hahaha. Hilarious.
Now, why don't you go fixing your alpine grf, if you are sooo caring about copyrights?
You know, that grf YOU DID that has a LOT of ORIGINAL graphics with SMALL modifications that YOU distributed?
I don't see much a difference between YOUR status and OUR.
Don't you have anything more interesting to do?

Well, not so. Largest group of sprites (drawn by me) are snow overlays to the original sprites. The second largest group are original sprites which had to be included from technical reasons into the .grf, simply because they couldn´t be loaded in-game after changing the climate. For these I had permission on condition that they might not be modified.

However, there´s a very small number of modified original sprites, namely original ground sprites with added snow, just because at the time I made that .grf, layered ground tiles weren´t possible.

O/c this was an unlucky situation for me, but at that time I felt that inclusion of such a small number of modified original sprites would be insignificant in terms of copyright.

Today (i.e. since years), I won´t release anything containing foreign graphical art, even with permission.

Nevertheless, that´s just "peanuts" in comparison to that much larger breach of copyright we´ve been talking of.

Hope you had your fun.

regards
Michael

[VoxDissident]

Uh... Please play nice guys.

Points well taken on both sides.

-Vox

[TTD Dude]

Hey guys. Vox is right. Both Sides are correct. Calm down.

[athanasios]

Another futile discussion.

For these I had permission on condition that they might not be modified.

I would like to know only this: From whom did you get permission, and what did that permission allow?

regards
athanasios

[dihedral]

i was wondering the same!

besides - you know it's not about 'how much' but the fact that copyright material is involved!

[VoxDissident]

*sigh*

I think the original poster's question has been answered.

[el koeno]

What's with the bad blood??? Geez.

[DaleStan]

Hear, hear! Even *I* am getting tired of this.

And when *I*, of all people, start considering dropping someone into my killfile for excessive OpenTTD bashing ... well, the rest of it goes without saying, so I won't belabour the point.