[UNIV] ISR - Industrial Stations Renewal

[krtaylor]

I have another suggestion, namely - spoor.

In other words, even if there is no cargo waiting at a station at the moment, there should still be some sort of "leftovers" from whatever is usually there. E.g. coal will have black powder streaks and pebbles left, hay will have stray bits, and so on.

This matters to me because I set up my railroads such that there's almost always a train sitting in the station filling up. That maximizes my rating and revenue, but also means that it is very rare that there are large quantities of cargo just sitting around. It's only with passengers and mail that I don't do that.

[Kickme93]

I have another suggestion, namely - spoor.

In other words, even if there is no cargo waiting at a station at the moment, there should still be some sort of "leftovers" from whatever is usually there. E.g. coal will have black powder streaks and pebbles left, hay will have stray bits, and so on.

Nice suggestion but how will be able to remove these bits etc?

[krtaylor]

I mean, they would be there permanently. As it is, most of my stations look very plain and bare most of the time because there isn't anything waiting there. It would be nice if there would always be at least a little bit of stuff lying around, even if the cargolevel was 0, just so you can tell at a glance what the station type is.

[Trond]

Ah, by the way: about the bails...

Suggestion:
The rectangular bales could be a simple recolour of the General Cargo crates. The round bales could be a recolour of the copper or steel coils. Then you could have some of each on the same platform. What colour you ask? Yellow for the sunny parts and brown for the shaded parts.

Next, a question ... Which cargo did you have in mind for these? Grain would be wrong as it is a bulk product stored in silos. However, they would be perfect for the fiber crops produced by George's ECS farms and accepted by his animal farms, among other industries.

As I dont use the ECS vectors, I was thinking about the grain, as I think I mentioned in the 1st post about this... I feel I need something to visualize when there are much grain waiting at a station... Grain are made from hay, so it wouldnt be that far off anyway

[wallyweb]

As I dont use the ECS vectors, I was thinking about the grain, as I think I mentioned in the 1st post about this... I feel I need something to visualize when there are much grain waiting at a station... Grain are made from hay, so it wouldnt be that far off anyway

Actually hay is a form of grass fed to animals. Grain comes from the flower of wheat or corn or similar plants. However, I agree with you about using the bales to indicate grain with those industry sets that don't have a hay like product. I wonder if it would be possible to have the grf detect whether fiber products are available and apply the appropriate cargo to the bales.

[Trond]

I agree that hay is grass, but isnt grain the seeds from the grass, not the flower? Thats what I tought, and some fast reading at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cereal shows me this wiki agrees with me

[Trond]

Double Post Excuse: This is a bugreport...

Station setup: Mineral unloader (1) + Mineral unloader (2) + Train Shed + Mineral unloader (3) + Mineral unloader (4). Train enters from last tile in that sequence. The station is on a ledge.

Mineral unloader (2) in front of the trainshed blinks, so that is dissapears when train is entering. See pic1+pic2. Dont *think* the same is happening with mineral unloader (4).

pic1

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pic2

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While this is how it looks when 'the blink' is correct. pic3

pic3

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Also, while I'm at it... Trainshed with mineral unloader would be awesome

[Kickme93]

I cant quite see what the bug in that picture is...

Care to explain it more?

[Trond]

The mineral unloader (2) tile dissapears. Look under the train at station tile 2, pic1. Under the 2nd and 3rd wagon.

[Kickme93]

Oh yeah...

I see it now.

[mart3p]

Looks like the UKRS.Grf

Am I right?

>Kickme: Yes you are correct, it is UKRS.

This is a bugreport...

Station setup: Mineral unloader...

>Trond: Thanks for the bug report. I've had a lot of problems with these flickering base tiles. I though I'd found a solution to the problem but it now seems that there are still some situations where it can still occur.

I have an idea that I think will eliminate the problem. I will do some experiments...

[Kickme93]

Looks like the UKRS.Grf

Am I right?

>Kickme: Yes you are correct, it is UKRS.

I have an idea that I think will eliminate the problem. I will do some experiments...

Thanks for that reply.

0.0 Your a scientist XD

[onodera]

I agree that hay is grass, but isnt grain the seeds from the grass, not the flower? Thats what I tought, and some fast reading at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cereal shows me this wiki agrees with me

But doesn't straw, which is what is left after the cereal seeds are removed, look different from hay? I remember from my summers in the country that fooling around in hay was fun, but fooling around in straw was quite painful.

[krtaylor]

From the altitude of the player window, I imagine that hay and straw would look quite similar, whether wrapped in bales or just strewn on the platform.

The flickering base-tiles were a constant problem in the old set, as were trains-under-base-tiles. Although it may not be perfect now, it's a huge improvement!

[Kickme93]

Question

By any chance is there supposed to be a very bugged up switch yard addition?

[mph]

I dont know what you mean, but I think you just don't realise how its meant to look.

See ben_k's screenshot here, and play around with it. The version of the grf I have is not bugged up at all.

[Kickme93]

Ah.. So it's supposed to look like that.

That's one nice station by the way

[mart3p]

>mph: Thanks, although that's not Ben_K's screenshot. It's one of mine that he reposted.

>Kickme93: I'm beginning to wish I could carry out the procedure that your user name requests. Just for you, here is another switchyard screenshot.

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And a suggestion; try using mineral silo stations at your gravel quarries and clay pits.

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[Aegir]

The screenshots get more impressive each time I see a new one.

Daaamn I need to get OpenTTD on my n810 .

[Kickme93]

Ah. thanks for the info on the switch yard

Before i was using 0.5.3 and didn't know about it.
Then upgraded to 0.6.0 and thought it was a bug or something.