2.6 nightly/alpha discussion

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 17 Apr 2007 05:12

Gondrong wrote:What is the switches that 2.5 dont have?

Too many to list

Gondrong wrote:Is nightly compatible with TTDX configurator?

it should be

Gondrong wrote:How do I revert back to 2.5 after using nightly?

before you run configurator rename your ttdpatch.cfg to ttdpatch2_5.bak and move it to another folder. Then use configurator to make a new cfg for the nightly.
When you want to go back, rename the nightly cfg to ttdpatchnight.bak and move it to the other folder. Then move your 2.5 back into your ttdx game folder and rename it back to ttdpatch.cfg

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 17 Apr 2007 05:21

Gondrong wrote:What is the switches that 2.5 dont have?

The ones that 2.6 adds to the end of your config, or marks with "**** New bits ****", after you run "ttdpatchw -!T- -W ttdpatch.cfg".

Alternatively: The ones that 2.5 complains about after generating a config with 2.6 and then loading that config in 2.5.

aahz77 · Post by **aahz77** » 17 Apr 2007 05:28

wallyweb wrote:
Gondrong wrote:How do I revert back to 2.5 after using nightly?
before you run configurator rename your ttdpatch.cfg to ttdpatch2_5.bak and move it to another folder. Then use configurator to make a new cfg for the nightly.
When you want to go back, rename the nightly cfg to ttdpatchnight.bak and move it to the other folder. Then move your 2.5 back into your ttdx game folder and rename it back to ttdpatch.cfg

This is not entirely necessary. You can have all files in one folder by renaming the files for one version (.exe, .cfg) to something unique (e.g. with "2.5" or so in the name) and the nightly version to something else )(like "2.6n"), and starting one or the other with a corresponding .bat or .cmd file which consists of one line like this:

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ttdpatchw.25b.exe -C ttdpatch.25b.cfg -Xn newgrfw.cfg

With the -Xn switch, you can specify a newgrf.cfg, just in case you have different Newgrfs for the Beta and the Nightly version.

Gondrong · Post by **Gondrong** » 17 Apr 2007 16:02

Thanks for all the help & info.

Post by **PikkaBird** » 17 Apr 2007 16:44

Hmm, I seem to have managed to break ctrl-building of stations.

I can't get it to happen reliably, but when ctrl-building station tiles, it started complaining that the ground wasn't flat, or something was in the way. Eventually I put my 1x1 station tile onto a nice big flat bit of land, and it turned into a large airport.

m3henry · Post by **m3henry** » 17 Apr 2007 17:23

did it work like an airport?
was it as cheap as regular station tiles???

if so; I WANNA BREAK IRREGULAR STAATIONS!

PeterB · Post by **PeterB** » 18 Apr 2007 08:44

PikkaBird wrote:Hmm, I seem to have managed to break ctrl-building of stations.

Me too, But I get bus stops. I have investigated a bit, seems to only happen with a large number of stations on map, late in game with AI building it's usual silly number of short routes.

It is not repeatable, keep trying and eventually you get a rail station.

I also have had warnings about too many airports while building railway stations, and got a bus stop once when building a dock.

A quick work around is to build while paused, nearly always builds the right sort of station.

Post by **PikkaBird** » 18 Apr 2007 08:57

PeterB wrote:I have investigated a bit, seems to only happen with a large number of stations on map, late in game with AI building it's usual silly number of short routes.

I was getting it in a new game, with the first station built.

PeterB · Post by **PeterB** » 18 Apr 2007 09:08

PikkaBird wrote: I was getting it in a new game, with the first station built.

That should be a lot easier to find and fix then, I was thinking overflows in the station list or something equally nasty.

It's been there for a few builds now, I think I'm on my 3rd or 4th game since I first noticed the glitch.

Tenderwheels · Post by **Tenderwheels** » 19 Apr 2007 23:29

Listening to all this, I must say I can't build any industries anywhere even though I should, (according to my setup). Message is always: 'Can't construct this industry type here, site unsuitable'. with a (Food processing plant)
I tried every where else, with no luck ...I could prospect for a mine, and a diamond mine turned up.....I have no AI implemented and a limited amount of stations. Latest nightly patch too. But the problem was there with Patch 2.5 beta 9... that is the first patch I tried..and other patches are the same. This does not concur with what I am led to believe.
Sandy.(Tenderwheels)

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 19 Apr 2007 23:53

Tenderwheels wrote:Listening to all this, I must say I can't build any industries anywhere even though I should, according to my setup. Message is always: 'Can't construct this industry type here, site unsuitable'.(Food processing plant)
I tried every were else, with no luck ...I could prospect for a mine, and a diamond mine turned up.....

Is there anything else that you can tell us about or show us?
Which climate are you playing in?
Which version of the patch are you using?
Could you attach your patch configuration file?
Which grf's are you using?
Could you attach your newgrf configuration file?
Is this a new game or a saved game or a scenario?
Unfortunately "according to my setup" tells us absolutely nothing as we are unable to tunnel into your computer at this time.
What is your setup?

Post by **PikkaBird** » 20 Apr 2007 03:16

Ah.. hmm.

In 1512 with the new sprite sorter on, if you build a bridge more than a couple of tiles off the ground, the bridge deck shows in front of the upper parts of the bridge, as well as in front of any vehicles on the bridge...

JGR · Post by **JGR** » 20 Apr 2007 10:25

Pikkabird: This will be fixed in the next nightly, thanks for pointing it out

JGR

Post by **PikkaBird** » 20 Apr 2007 11:18

Bridges are good, but there's another one: tram tracks on roads are displaying over vehicles.

Edit: also, higher bridge superstructures can display in front of trees or buildings built on the tile in front of them.

Post by **WWTBAM** » 20 Apr 2007 12:08

with the nightly im getting Failed to find string at #001 00240765, found 01/00 00164273 for oldbuyaddtestbit in patchvehtypes Ive tried deleting my cfgs and that still doesnt help. Im using dos here when it occurs.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 20 Apr 2007 15:37

Dupe: http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-view_trac ... itemId=284

Post by **PikkaBird** » 21 Apr 2007 01:26

PikkaBird wrote:Hmm, I seem to have managed to break ctrl-building of stations.

I can't get it to happen reliably, but when ctrl-building station tiles, it started complaining that the ground wasn't flat, or something was in the way. Eventually I put my 1x1 station tile onto a nice big flat bit of land, and it turned into a large airport.

In the attached savegame, attempting to ctrl-build a station (either as a new station, or attaching to an existing one) builds an airport.

Tenderwheels · Post by **Tenderwheels** » 21 Apr 2007 06:14

wallyweb wrote:
Tenderwheels wrote:Listening to all this, I must say I can't build any industries anywhere even though I should, according to my setup. Message is always: 'Can't construct this industry type here, site unsuitable'.(Food processing plant)
I tried every were else, with no luck ...I could prospect for a mine, and a diamond mine turned up.....
Is there anything else that you can tell us about or show us?
Which climate are you playing in?
Which version of the patch are you using?
Could you attach your patch configuration file?
Which grf's are you using?
Could you attach your newgrf configuration file?
Is this a new game or a saved game or a scenario?
Unfortunately "according to my setup" tells us absolutely nothing as we are unable to tunnel into your computer at this time.
What is your setup?

Wallyweb: I'm using the Temperate climate.
TTDPatch 2.6 0 r1486(windows)
Have tried TTDPatch 2.5 beta 9 (oct 29, 2006).
Using SAC's INFRA-Region (2006,10,13) Senario.
Just found out this is for TTDLX game play, If this is the problem I apologise.
I have lost industries due to lack of use so I'm pretty sure this is not the limitation causing the problem. Using PB_UKRSI.GRF and PB_UKRS.GRF with CARGOSETW.GRF.
Thanks for your time. Sandy (Tenderwheels)

Post by **WWTBAM** » 21 Apr 2007 06:17

DaleStan wrote:Dupe: http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-view_trac ... itemId=284

Lakie your fix worked

PeterB · Post by **PeterB** » 21 Apr 2007 11:32

Thanks Lakie & Pikka, the new hidetranstrees switch works very nicely.

Well done

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