Middle Dot, Crash with OpenTTD build r6551 (Solved)

[Arnau]

Hi, I was testing the lastest build and when trying to do a new game sometimes (1 time every 50 newgames aprox) the game crashes. Giving the following error Message "Tried to load non-sprite #153" Probable cause: Wrong/Missing NewGRFs"

What I don't understand is that with this seed number I retried to start the game and it didn't crash. So it seems there's some random pattern.

I don't have any third party GRF's installed and I compile the trunk with MSVC2005Express. The first time I noticed was in version r6xxx

I attach in a picture the options I used when starting the new game.

I searched for info a little bit but I didn't find anything.
Anyone else with this problem it is already reported?

[Bjarni]

do you multiple CPUs or a dualcore CPU?
what map size was this? (the one displayed?)

[Arnau]

All settings are the ones in the picture.
I tried, printscreen, tried printscreen, and tried printscreen, until it crashed.

I've got an Athlon64 3200+ (Single core) 1Gb RAM, Windows XP (32bit) SP2, no antivirus.



I attach you my compiled openttd.exe and the terrain settings in english sorry.

I want to insist that it doesn't crash always even with this terrain.

I'll be trying to search for some pattern in order to reproduce it better.

Bye

[Arnau]

Mmmm I think I found some important information.
The crash only happens with the Catalan interface language.
Now I'm able to reproduce the crash with this seed number and Catalan interface languange.
I suppose that there is some type of problem with the translated loading messages, but I don't know what's wrong.

[Arnau]

Ok, I think I solved it.

It was a problem with in the word "Cell", in Catalan "cel·les". The dot in the middle doesn't seem to work with Openttd. I changed · for . and problem solved.

Sorry for the incovenience

[Bjarni]

is that something you added yourself or is the problem in the trunk?

[DaleStan]

Bjarni, can we please lead by example?

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$ grep ":.*cel" trunk/lang/catlan.txt
STR_012E_CANCEL                     :{BLACK}Cancel.lar
STR_CONFIG_PATCHES_REALISTICACCEL   :{LTBLUE}Activar l'acceleració realista per als trens: {ORANGE}{STRING}
STR_NETWORK_TILESET                 :{SILVER}Grup de cel.les:  {WHITE}{STRING}
STR_303B_EXCELLENT                  :Excelent
STR_7047_CANCEL_NEW_FACE_SELECTION  :{BLACK}Cancel.lar la selecció de nova cara
STR_PREPARING_TILELOOP              :{BLACK}Passant el bucle de cel·les

[Arnau]

The problem was in the Catalan.txt translation file, it was just the · character which does not seem to be acceptable. I've updated the catalan.txt file so in next webtranslator2 update the problem will be solved.

[Arnau]

Bjarni, can we please lead by example?

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$ grep ":.*cel" trunk/lang/catlan.txt
STR_012E_CANCEL                     :{BLACK}Cancel.lar
STR_CONFIG_PATCHES_REALISTICACCEL   :{LTBLUE}Activar l'acceleració realista per als trens: {ORANGE}{STRING}
STR_NETWORK_TILESET                 :{SILVER}Grup de cel.les:  {WHITE}{STRING}
STR_303B_EXCELLENT                  :Excelent
STR_7047_CANCEL_NEW_FACE_SELECTION  :{BLACK}Cancel.lar la selecció de nova cara
STR_PREPARING_TILELOOP              :{BLACK}Passant el bucle de cel·les

It was my fault because one month ago I translated this string using the bad character. Just I didn't know I couldn't use it.

[Tron]

It was a problem with in the word "Cell", in Catalan "cel·les".

Is the middle dot common use in catalan or is it just a substitute for something else which is not present in the ISO-8859-15 charset?
If it is the former, then a glyph can easily be added for this char. It shouldn't be too hard to draw a nice looking dot in the three font sizes. There was just no need for this before.

[Arnau]

The middle dot (present in a spanish keyboard Shift + 3 key) is common use in Catalan language. It doen't substitute anything, though everybody understand it if we use the normal dot. I didn't know that catalan was the only language here that use this character!
It would be great if it could be added but it doesn't hurry.


ISO8859-15 Table


ISO8859-15
Table 57. ISO8859-1 Code set
Symbolic Name Hex Value

...
pilcrow sign B6
middle dot B7
...


Thanks for your time.

[Arnau]

I saw that the middle dot was introduced in the openttd trunk SVN 7013. I just wanted to say thanks to Tron for his effort on this little little detail!