[CANCELED] Canadian Pack (Has been taken over by Plastikman)

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 24 Jul 2006 12:43

For someone

chemical_echo · Post by **chemical_echo** » 24 Jul 2006 16:32

Nice work, thank you very much

Train-a-Mania · Post by **Train-a-Mania** » 24 Jul 2006 17:13

Great job, IA. Perhaps you could do the Canadian?

Train-a-Mania · Post by **Train-a-Mania** » 24 Jul 2006 17:24

Thank's, Breeze.

The Canadian Pacific Railway site has plenty of MSTS models, including the 1955 Canadian and 2816 "Empress." I suggested to Plastikman that he do these, but he decided not to.

chemical_echo · Post by **chemical_echo** » 24 Jul 2006 17:36

Here's a link to the CPR site with the train models.

I'd love to see some of those or these if they havent already been done.

Breeze646 · Post by **Breeze646** » 24 Jul 2006 17:42

train-a-mania wrote:Thank's, Breeze.

The Canadian Pacific Railway site has plenty of MSTS models, including the 1955 Canadian and 2816 "Empress." I suggested to Plastikman that he do these, but he decided not to.

No Problem

Yeah I wish someone would make a CLRV for MSTS and a Toronto Streetcar Route. I don't know where to request that though.

metalangel · Post by **metalangel** » 24 Jul 2006 18:02

Breeze646 wrote: Yeah I wish someone would make a CLRV for MSTS and a Toronto Streetcar Route. I don't know where to request that though.

There used to be http://www.torontotrainz.com who offered a detailed 'Virtual Toronto' including the lakeshore line in both directions as well as streetcars to drive around. Unfortunately, a) it was for Trainz, and b) the website seems to be down right now. Oh, and c) it became payware.

Given Trainz was shoddy at the best of times, I didn't ever get around to trying it... it seemed more 'inspired by' than 'an accurate recreation of' Toronto, which to a local like me would put me right off.

Train-a-Mania · Post by **Train-a-Mania** » 24 Jul 2006 18:15

I remember that route. It was pretty cool (and it's free, you can get it on the DLS).

metalangel · Post by **metalangel** » 24 Jul 2006 18:20

train-a-mania wrote:I remember that route. It was pretty cool (and it's free, you can get it on the DLS).

Was it that good? It always looked to me like... well, every Trainz route, ever (made with the same collection of generic items, with one or two custom bits). Plus, you had the thrill of sloooooooowly downloading each dependency before it would work, and once you had it all: Trainz' notoriously inefficient, buggy graphics engine.

Do I sound bitter? I only bought Trainz CE and then TRS2004 and found that three years had made almost zero difference to the game itself (well, except that Trainz CE on my PII 400 32Mb GeForce2 and TRS2004 on my P4 1.7 Ghz 64Mb GeForce4 ran exactly the same - like a slideshow)

Train-a-Mania · Post by **Train-a-Mania** » 24 Jul 2006 18:25

That's true. The route did take forever to load.

Don't completely stereotype Trainz, however. Some routes (such as the Clinchfield line) are really well done (and even better than some MSTS routes).

metalangel · Post by **metalangel** » 24 Jul 2006 18:53

train-a-mania wrote:That's true. The route did take forever to load.

Don't completely stereotype Trainz, however. Some routes (such as the Clinchfield line) are really well done (and even better than some MSTS routes).

Yeah, I don't completely hate Trainz. The Razorback as it was for Trainz SP3 was fantastic, as was a Boston-based streetcar and LRT layout. I reckon, though, each of the three big sims (BVE, MSTS, Trainz) had its own forte. MSTS is great at long distance, high speed routes. BVE is ideal for underground/subway routes. Trainz is good for slow freight type routes.

Problem with Trainz, very few routes are ever finished, and even if they are, not many scenarios are made for them. I mean, someone did the ECML all the way from London to Doncaster, but you just had to run it alone and empty as nobody made any scenarios. And the reproduction of the NEC (with no disrespect to the author, who clearly spent weeks on it) pushed the program beyond breaking point.

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 24 Jul 2006 19:13

Ok, well give a list of Canadian trains and i will look at it. But i wont promise anything.

Breeze646 · Post by **Breeze646** » 24 Jul 2006 19:31

Illegal_Alien wrote:Ok, well give a list of Canadian trains and i will look at it. But i wont promise anything.

Here's a list of Canadian Trains I got for MSTS.

-VIA F40PH
-VIA P42
-VIA Canadian Cars (The Cars on the Canadian and the other trains that aren't on the Corridor)
-VIA MK3/MK4
-VIA LRC Loco and Coach (Already done)
-GO F59PH
-GO P42 (Fictonal)
-GO Bi levels
-VIA RDC

That's all I can think of. If I remember correctly, I got them all at Train-Sim.com

chemical_echo · Post by **chemical_echo** » 24 Jul 2006 19:51

I'm not sure of all actual train model names/numbers, but after looking some of the ones Breeze646 posted up on google, those are all ones I would like to see.

andel · Post by **andel** » 24 Jul 2006 21:02

OKE - prevention is better than cure... I'm gonna split off the spam from this and bin it. If you wanna go off topic, it's about 6 rows up.

chemical_echo · Post by **chemical_echo** » 24 Jul 2006 21:03

Just in case you want some pictures of the list from above...
VIA F40PH
VIA P42
VIA Canadian Cars
GO F59PH
Go Bi levels
VIA RDC
I cant find any VIA MK3/MK4...but I'm assuming those are the new renaissance class cars from other topics I've read.

I also cant find the GO P42 since it's fictional, but I'm guessing that's just the VIA P42 with GO colours.

metalangel · Post by **metalangel** » 24 Jul 2006 22:21

chemical_echo wrote:Just in case you want some pictures of the list from above...

Half those don't work, because the hosts don't allow remote image linking.

I also cant find the GO P42 since it's fictional, but I'm guessing that's just the VIA P42 with GO colours.

GO isn't getting P42s, they're getting MP36PH-3Ses according to Transit Toronto.

Given the P42 is used to haul huge trains all the way across the continent, it seems a bit excessive for a commuter service.

chemical_echo · Post by **chemical_echo** » 24 Jul 2006 22:51

I'm not sure why they dont work, it's not like I'm leeching or anything...oh well, I'll just upload the pics...

Also, I know GO isnt getting the P42s. Whyen I saw the word fictional, I figured they were fake.