A few questions about the Trains

flasher86 · Post by **flasher86** » 10 Jul 2006 21:59

1: Why almost all of the engines are red in DBSetXL. Can I change that colors? This red is AWFUL. Perhaps I should check some switches. I dont know.

2: In attached image you can see banner of Dutch trainset. And some of these engines are very cool but when I try download and install it (DTsetPRw.GRF) from dutch trainset home page there are only two ore three new engines and they doesnt look's very well. Where is the rest of these cool trains?

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 11 Jul 2006 00:35

1. The engines are red 'cause they are in real life. realism's one of MB's biggest priorities, so there's nothing you can do about that. if you want to adjust the colours yourself, try the UK Renewal set or the North American Renewal set. be sure to have the 2CC running though.

2. The dutch trainset is still in developement, the one you've downloaded is a teaser GRF, and an old one as well. you'll simply have to wait, like i do for this magnificent set. a new version's bound to pop out sooner or later.

Post by **Dave** » 11 Jul 2006 01:30

Heh... Astath's not just a pretty face!

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 11 Jul 2006 07:00

astath wrote:2. The dutch trainset is still in developement, the one you've downloaded is a teaser GRF, and an old one as well. you'll simply have to wait, like i do for this magnificent set. a new version's bound to pop out sooner or later.

Yeah we're working on it, slowly. ATM almost everything has been drawn, now Hyro is busy with making some overviews for our coder so he knows how to code it.
The version available at our website is just a pre-release containing like 4 trains.
Thanks for your enthusiasm both of you tho.

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 11 Jul 2006 08:28

Dave Worley wrote:Heh... Astath's not just a pretty face!

he's got the brains to match!

Purno wrote:Yeah we're working on it, slowly. ATM almost everything has been drawn, now Hyro is busy with making some overviews for our coder so he knows how to code it.
The version available at our website is just a pre-release containing like 4 trains.
Thanks for your enthusiasm both of you tho.

well, it's quite hard not to get enthusiastic about this set, 'innit?

oh, by the way, i don't know if anyone knows which one i'm talking about, but near Den Haag Centraal, there's a really small (read: extremely tiny) diesel somewhere along the way onwards into the station. anyone got an idea what it might be? unfortunately i haven't got the equipment to directly take a photo next time (like a cell phone capable of something like that), so perhaps someone recognizes my description.

yeah, i know. off-topic and wrong thread. but hey.

flasher86 · Post by **flasher86** » 11 Jul 2006 11:28

Thanks guys. I was little concerned about that becouse I just saw this banner couple of months ago and it was still under developement.

And one more thing. I would like to do some mix of engines from few trainsets. Is there possible? For example I like few engines from DBSetXL and a few from JapanSet. Is there any way to split these sets so I could use the both engines?

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 11 Jul 2006 11:44

flasher86 wrote:Thanks guys. I was little concerned about that becouse I just saw this banner couple of months ago and it was still under developement.

We're busy for 3 years now

And one more thing. I would like to do some mix of engines from few trainsets. Is there possible? For example I like few engines from DBSetXL and a few from JapanSet. Is there any way to split these sets so I could use the both engines?

Not without coding your own GRF file. Which would require knowledge of NFO, and permission to use artwork of those sets.

flasher86 · Post by **flasher86** » 11 Jul 2006 14:03

We're busy for 3 years now

wow. The graphics drew. So whats the problem? Coding doesnt spending 3 years dude

Someone got lazy

I am thinking that whole trainsset is a good idea. Why dont you release that engines separatly. It would be very good thing. Any one could add that engines that he is like. And I wouldnt recode any .nfo file.

Can you tell me when you probably release the final version? Just approximate pls

michael blunck · Post by **michael blunck** » 11 Jul 2006 14:12

Why dont you release that engines separatly. It would be very good thing. Any one could add that engines that he is like.

http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php ... wn_trains_

regards
Michael

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 11 Jul 2006 15:26

flasher86 wrote:wow. The graphics drew. So whats the problem? Coding doesnt spending 3 years dude Someone got lazy

Shut up, start coding yourself then

Some of us actually have something called "Real Life" which costs a considerable amount of time.

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 11 Jul 2006 15:30

flasher86 wrote:
We're busy for 3 years now
wow. The graphics drew. So whats the problem? Coding doesnt spending 3 years dude Someone got lazy

That someone would be me.

Proof us that coding a complete trainset and living a life doesn't take 3 years and I'll consider agreeing with you. For now I pity you as you think you know better.

michael blunck · Post by **michael blunck** » 11 Jul 2006 15:49

> Proof us that coding a complete trainset and living a life doesn't take 3 years [...]

Well, AFAIR, I coded the first version of the DBXL in approximately four months but admittedly that was in winter ...

regards
Michael

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 11 Jul 2006 16:01

You work alone and I do wonder how your life looks like sometimes

. Everyone involved in the Dutch trainset team are students and I was the only coder after broodje stopped working on the set. And as I'm not a genius on understanding what patchman (+ you) put on the Wiki...

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flasher86 · Post by **flasher86** » 11 Jul 2006 16:07

wow guys.

Sorry... No offence man. This was missunderstood

. I am just really excited that vehicles and impatient with waiting for final release.

I just want to know when you release the final version.

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 11 Jul 2006 16:08

I want to know that too. If someone can whisper it in my ear.

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 11 Jul 2006 16:52

[whisper]when it's done[/whisper]

sorry, couldn't resist.

actually, that's your line in this case, 'innit?

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 11 Jul 2006 17:05

Well, since after 3 years all graphical work seems to be done, I guess after 3 more years the coding would be done.

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 11 Jul 2006 17:29

astath wrote:[whisper]when it's done[/whisper]

sorry, couldn't resist. actually, that's your line in this case, 'innit?

Pretty much but I borrowed it from Patchman.

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 11 Jul 2006 20:54

Hyronymus wrote:Pretty much but I borrowed it from Patchman.

i think we could put it up with the classic quotes of history by now, along with "I have a dream..." and "Ich bin ein berliner".

michael blunck · Post by **michael blunck** » 11 Jul 2006 21:39

@Hyronymus

Everyone involved in the Dutch trainset team are students and I was the only coder after broodje stopped working on the set. And as I'm not a genius on understanding what patchman (+ you) put on the Wiki... .

Yes, I totally understand your point. I didn´t say you should have finished earlier nor did I whine about you didn´t succeeded in doing it. I just wanted to point out that your statement was too general.to be true.

Besides, I have to admit that today the pressure of expectation is much higher than at a time when the first sets were released and in addition, the complexity of coding work has risen due to lots and lots of novel patch features.

regards
Michael

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