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Ben_Robbins_ · Post by **Ben_Robbins_** » 12 Apr 2006 21:52

The Dirt stays on then...
Heres the main body of the train. Ive done the underneeth part mostly, (bowgy?) but i think its rubish, so im doing it again. So heres just the top.

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 12 Apr 2006 21:58

Shape looks good and it's called a bogie

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Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 12 Apr 2006 23:45

Excellent model. The one problrm is that it is too thin. The roof curvature makes it looks strange because it's too thin. Can you try stretching it a bit? HSTs are rather fat.

The best dead-on photo I could find is rather strange.

http://blog.freetimegears.com.tw/patric ... spaper.jpg

Ben_Robbins_ · Post by **Ben_Robbins_** » 13 Apr 2006 00:13

Strange, i thourght it was fat, so thinned it, but yeah your right, i'll fattern it up.

I struggled to find (like normal) any good images of the 'bogie' underneath the train, and ive never really paid enough/any attention to trains, or there bogie's, so im not too shore what it looks like.. All these train spotter sites seem to have taken them on the platforms. ...Any clear images of how its bogie works/looks like would be really helpful, cause i want to redo that section.

richk67 · Post by **richk67** » 13 Apr 2006 00:28

Born Acorn wrote:Excellent model. The one problrm is that it is too thin. The roof curvature makes it looks strange because it's too thin. Can you try stretching it a bit? HSTs are rather fat.

The best dead-on photo I could find is rather strange.

http://blog.freetimegears.com.tw/patric ... spaper.jpg

I find modelling sites tend to have good profile images: Hornby are especially clear.

BR Inter City 125 HST - no smoke baffle
Inter City 125 HST - GreatWestern colours - note the smoke baffle

From the Enlarge Picture option, you can see that your model is about 10% too long for its height. Otherwise, its fantastic.

Now what would be cool would be one all over in baby pink

(HSTs used to have pink undercoat!)

Ben_Robbins_ · Post by **Ben_Robbins_** » 13 Apr 2006 00:44

This is it fatter, it was way too thin when i check it up against that image.

In terms of legth i checked it against the hornby train origianlly, and i actually made it slightly shorter, cause i reconed it was too long... now its fatter, do you still think its too long?

The problem with the hornby site is although the scaling is helpful, all the underneath is simplified.

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 13 Apr 2006 07:55

Yes, now that looks great. Excellent, you have hit the mark!

Post by **WWTBAM** » 13 Apr 2006 08:01

much better

Post by **peter1138** » 13 Apr 2006 08:09

That looks very nice... and although they do have the black streaks, could we have variants?

NewGRF allows you to specify the image to use based on things like train age, and I hope we don't lose this functionality when going to 32bpp. So we could have a nice clean IC125 when it is brand new, and then after a few runs it could get dirtied up.

This could even be a visual indicator of how old your trains are; make a really dirty version show when the vehicle is due to be replaced...

ZxBiohazardZx · Post by **ZxBiohazardZx** » 13 Apr 2006 10:01

Ben_Robbins_ wrote:This is it fatter, it was way too thin when i check it up against that image.

In terms of legth i checked it against the hornby train origianlly, and i actually made it slightly shorter, cause i reconed it was too long... now its fatter, do you still think its too long?

The problem with the hornby site is although the scaling is helpful, all the underneath is simplified.

i still dislike the dirt/bumps but it looks great apart from that.... (can you try to remove that)

Crazy Vaclav · Post by **Crazy Vaclav** » 13 Apr 2006 12:14

I have a feeling this picture was posted a while ago, but it gives you a pretty good view of the bogie.

http://www.hochgeschwindigkeitszuege.co ... rst_gr.jpg

Here is another one.
http://www.euroforce.cz/farish/images/371-475A.jpg

Ben_Robbins_ · Post by **Ben_Robbins_** » 13 Apr 2006 16:32

Well heres the black streaks, and it without blackstreaks, and then a gif running threw it. Then heres the max file as well, although theres still bits to do, but im outta time now, and going kayaking for next weekish, so ill do/make more changes after that. (If the .gif doesnt work <crazy vaclav>, its just the graduall change between the 2 jpg's,)

But i was really just making the mesh, cause it may need retexuring in blender, but i texture as i model, casue i find it easier that way...So its ended up textured.

The lighting is in no way correct..either...so these are really just progress images i guess.

ZxBiohazardZx · Post by **ZxBiohazardZx** » 13 Apr 2006 16:59

i like the last one ben, just great!

(IMO the no dirt one looks better)

ZxBiohazardZx · Post by **ZxBiohazardZx** » 13 Apr 2006 19:00

just went looking for some reference pictures fro BR class 30 and 40 and found a good page for that...

http://www.hattons.co.uk/ProductList/Re ... y=2005&m=6

lots of busses, trains and carriages there

edit:

http://www.hattons.co.uk/ProductList/Re ... y=2005&s=1

just go through the months lol i see more reference material, currently going for the suspencion bridge posted in my last link....\

edit 2:

HST if you might need it ben.....

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 13 Apr 2006 19:12

Ben_Robbins_ wrote:Well heres the black streaks, and it without blackstreaks, and then a gif running threw it.

I'm afraid I can in no way convince my eyes that the black streaks are black streaks and not shadows from bumps on the roof.

EDIT: This is not to say that I think I could do it better. I have the same problem with most of the images that Peter1138 posted.

ZxBiohazardZx · Post by **ZxBiohazardZx** » 13 Apr 2006 19:13

new post:

that is the 2004 livery of the HST ( for if you want to change the colours in certain year or so....

and i cant find any pictures of a class 40 or 30 with the electric guiderail system mounted on top (as shown in the ttd version...)

richk67 · Post by **richk67** » 13 Apr 2006 19:28

ZxBiohazardZx wrote:that is the 2004 livery of the HST ( for if you want to change the colours in certain year or so....

Nope. That is the livery of one company's HSTs. (which are now being withdrawn from service). The classic design in Ben's graphic is the style when the HST was in British Rail service. Once the railway companies were privatised (damn the tories), all kinds of new liveries came out (GW, MM, Virgin, GNER, etc.)

richk67 · Post by **richk67** » 13 Apr 2006 19:30

DaleStan wrote:I'm afraid I can in no way convince my eyes that the black streaks are black streaks and not shadows from bumps on the roof.

EDIT: This is not to say that I think I could do it better. I have the same problem with most of the images that Peter1138 posted.

It will make a lot more sense when travelling at speed with plumes of diesel smoke streaking back over it.

I love it... in fact for me, it isnt dirty enough!!

ZxBiohazardZx · Post by **ZxBiohazardZx** » 13 Apr 2006 19:46

its not the 30 or 40 class but i feel this looks better then the krokodil lookalike engines....

Edit:
side view:

front view

richk67 · Post by **richk67** » 13 Apr 2006 19:53

ZxBiohazardZx wrote:and i cant find any pictures of a class 40 or 30 with the electric guiderail system mounted on top (as shown in the ttd version...)

Ahh... the SH30 and SH40... true names are the Class 86, and Class 87.

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