North American Renewal Set - Ver. 1.0 Released! - 04/04/06

Jim Starluck · Post by **Jim Starluck** » 05 Dec 2005 18:58

PikkaBird wrote:*edit: Okay, so you're using OTTD... I can see how a few of the things you've mentioned (like the running costs for the Northern being too low) might be caused by OTTD not fully supporting newgrf yet.

Does OTTD take tractive effort into account, or is that only in TTDP?

Aegir · Post by **Aegir** » 05 Dec 2005 19:49

The effects of newgrf on gameplay are quite broad in TTDPatch, OTTD still hasn't implemented the newgrf specification completly, so a lot of things are missing on the gameplay side. Especially things like TE.

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 10 Dec 2005 20:21

Here are some 8/8 length coaches - 2CC stuff coming soon

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 10 Dec 2005 22:03

Aegir wrote:The effects of newgrf on gameplay are quite broad in TTDPatch, OTTD still hasn't implemented the newgrf specification completly, so a lot of things are missing on the gameplay side. Especially things like TE.

I think Hackykid did stuff on TE, it might have been committed, but no GUI entry was.

Post by **PikkaBird** » 18 Dec 2005 00:21

DaleStan,

a69pre1 crashes on the following action 4 from your steelmill code, can you fix this (or advise if it's a bug in the alpha)?

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 2212 * 38	 04 0A 9F 01 00 "...must be built below snow-line" 00

Post by **PikkaBird** » 18 Dec 2005 01:07

- edited; see below

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 18 Dec 2005 17:05

I'm not quite sure what I was thinking when I perpetrated that atrocity; replace it with:

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 2212 * 39     04 0A 9F 01 00 D0 "...must be built below snow-line" 00

Post by **PikkaBird** » 19 Dec 2005 05:33

Okay, I've fixed that up, and added the Shay, and Dan's "full length" coaches. Observation/Rear Deck/Dome cars now only appear in trains of > 6 cars long.

There are new URLs which I'll get Dan to edit into the first post;

Windows version:
http://www.pikkarail.com/ttdp/grf/arcticrenewal.grf

DOS version:
http://www.pikkarail.com/ttdp/grf/arcren_d.grf

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 19 Dec 2005 13:16

Done

Aegir · Post by **Aegir** » 20 Dec 2005 08:25

SHAYS! ZOMG!

habell · Post by **habell** » 01 Jan 2006 12:35

I think I've found a bug in the Arctic Renewal set.
When I buy the Dm3 [Electric] engine, it only shows the first part and I've to pay for both!
When I let that train leave the depot and I want to delete the depot I get a message that there is a train in the way

Can someone fix that problem in the set.
And maybe tell me how to get rid of the depots with no train in it, all though the game thinks there is?

Thanks.

Aegir · Post by **Aegir** » 01 Jan 2006 13:07

Erm, wrong set. That's Michael Bluncks Arctic Set. This is a different kettle of fish.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 02 Jan 2006 04:29

But try Cht: FindLostWagons. And, if you're using a69, report it in the problems forum; that's not supposed to happen any more.

habell · Post by **habell** » 02 Jan 2006 12:17

Aegir wrote:Erm, wrong set. That's Michael Bluncks Arctic Set. This is a different kettle of fish.

Oops sorry

. But it's refered as "Arctic Renewal Set" on the first post.

DanMacK wrote:Current Version is Always Avalable at the links below
Windows version:

DOS version:

**Latest Version - Dec. 17/05**

DaleStan wrote:But try Cht: FindLostWagons. And, if you're using a69, report it in the problems forum; that's not supposed to happen any more.

Thanks I'll try it.

Aegir · Post by **Aegir** » 03 Jan 2006 12:56

habell wrote:
Aegir wrote:Erm, wrong set. That's Michael Bluncks Arctic Set. This is a different kettle of fish.
Oops sorry . But it's refered as "Arctic Renewal Set" on the first post.

Yes, it is the Arctic Renewal Set, I know that.

Arctic Renewal Set, by DanMacK != Arctic Set, by Michael Blunck.

habell · Post by **habell** » 04 Jan 2006 12:55

I don't know if I've now found a bug or not.

I've noticed that when I have trains running Wheat the weight of the trains is 10 time the weight it should be.

For instance:
A Train weighs (including 4 wagons) 400 tons
the capacity of the wagons is 20 tons each.

When it's a Livestock train, the total will weigh 480 tons (400 + (4 x 20))
When it's a Wheat train, the total will weigh 1200 tons (400 + (4 x 200))

It seems that a calculation mistake is in the set, only affecting Wheat.

Post by **PikkaBird** » 04 Jan 2006 17:41

habell wrote:I've noticed that when I have trains running Wheat the weight of the trains is 10 time the weight it should be.

Do you have your freighttrains switch set to 10, perhaps? lol

It's not a bug, and it does affect all cargos equally (except passengers and mail) - the default weight for Livestock in TTD is only 187kg per "item", not 1t.

habell · Post by **habell** » 04 Jan 2006 18:22

PikkaBird wrote:It's not a bug, and it does affect all cargos equally (except passengers and mail) - the default weight for Livestock in TTD is only 187kg per "item", not 1t.

Freighttrains switch is off.

But it still does not clearify why Livestock is counted differently as Weat.
I just found out that Food is also calculated times 10.

When I turn off the "Arctic Renewal Set" the weight of the train is calculated correctly

Post by **PikkaBird** » 04 Jan 2006 19:09

habell wrote:But it still does not clearify why Livestock is counted differently as Weat.

1 item of livestock weighs 187kg. 1 ton of wheat weighs 1000kg. So a car carrying 20 items of livestock (20x187kg = 3.74t) is going to be considerably lighter than a car carrying 30t of wheat.

Can you post screenshots of the problem and your ttdpatch.cfg please?

(edit; this seems to be a bug in ttdp. Try setting freighttrains to "1", rather than to "off", and see if that fixes the weights).

habell · Post by **habell** » 05 Jan 2006 12:55

PikkaBird wrote:(edit; this seems to be a bug in ttdp. Try setting freighttrains to "1", rather than to "off", and see if that fixes the weights).

I just saw this too. I'll try this later. Thanks.

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