2.0.1 alpha / 2.5 beta discussion

[Skrilax]

I don't know how to build trams . When I build a tram depot it shows road vehicles instead of trams. What should I do?

[RK]

Do you have a tramset installed?

[Blackandy]

I don't know how to build trams . When I build a tram depot it shows road vehicles instead of trams. What should I do?

Can't you read?

[RK]

That can have different reasons. Does that happen in new games as well?

[Raichase]

I don't know how to build trams . When I build a tram depot it shows road vehicles instead of trams. What should I do?

Can't you read?

Don't be rude. He's trying to help the poor user, and you're just making smart remarks. I notice you're not helping either.

Skrilax - What tram set in particular? What year are you in? Have you activated the tramset grf in the graphics status window?

[Skrilax]

I don't know how to build trams . When I build a tram depot it shows road vehicles instead of trams. What should I do?

Can't you read?

Don't be rude. He's trying to help the poor user, and you're just making smart remarks. I notice you're not helping either.

Skrilax - What tram set in particular? What year are you in? Have you activated the tramset grf in the graphics status window?

I have activated the tramset grf files in the graphics status window (I have patch alpha 69 and the actual tramset grf file). I can build tramsites, depots and stations, but not any tram. When i click on the depot, it shows me to build road vehicles.

[Villem]

Tramtrkw.grf or Tramtrk.grf do not contain trams, they just contain the graphics & code for the depots, the stations, and the track.

You need a actual tram set to build trams.

[Raichase]

I have activated the tramset grf files in the graphics status window (I have patch alpha 69 and the actual tramset grf file). I can build tramsites, depots and stations, but not any tram. When i click on the depot, it shows me to build road vehicles.

You're not answering the right questions. What tram SET is it, ie what TRAMS have you downloaded? What YEAR are you in?

[PikkaBird]

There seems to be a bug in a69 with cargo weights and freighttrains=off.

http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... &start=460

See HaroldV's second and third posts on that page - I could replicate the problem:

freighttrains = off
- 30 crates of goods increases the train weight by 75t (= x5?).

freighttrains = 1
- 30 crates of goods increases the train weight by the correct 15t.

freighttrains = 0
- cargo is weightless!

I think it is also causing the problems habell is having here:

http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... &start=340

[The Person]

Makes sense that freighttrains = 0 should make cargo weightless. After all you are entered the number you want cargo weight to be multiplied with, and as we all know, if you multiply any number by 0 you get 0.

I don't know if that's the intended behaviour though.

[Villem]

Rather strange problem..

There seems to be a bug in a69 with cargo weights and freighttrains=off.

http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... &start=460

See HaroldV's second and third posts on that page - I could replicate the problem:

freighttrains = off
- 30 crates of goods increases the train weight by 75t (= x5?).

That would be x2.5 not x5. 30 told by 5 is 150.

[PikkaBird]

That would be x2.5 not x5. 30 told by 5 is 150.

Goods only weigh half a ton per crate.

[OzTrans]

Problem with 'Action 0 - Feature 8 : Properties for general variables' and changing currencies

a) I cannot get a modified currency display name (0A) recognized and shown in the drop-down currency window (title screen and in game) using action 0 feature 8. BTW, all other currency properties work fine when defined using action-0 feature-8.

b) the wiki says : action-0 feature-8 is not processed during initialisation. Unless using the old way, how can we get currency display names modified in the title screen ?

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  103 * 30     04 48 9F 01 00 DC 58 20 4E 6F 72 77 65 67 69 61 6E 20 4B 72 6F 6E 65 20 28 4E 6B 72 29 00
  104 * 29     00 08 06 01 06 0A 00 DC 0B E0 2E 00 00 0C 2C 00 0D 4E 6B 72 20 0E 20 4E 6B 72 0F 00 00

[Patchman]

The problem is that the grf isn't active in the title screen by default. You need to use an action E with an action 7 "is in title screen" check to force-activate the grf in the title screen only.

[OzTrans]

Thanks, I shall try that.

[RK]

I have a very strange bug now. Look at the savegame and pause it. Search the trains 50, 48, 47, 46 (on the right side) and click on each "ignore signal" button.



The trains will crash, the game as well.


Here my newgrfw.cfg:

newgrf/canalsw.grf
newgrf/elrailsw.grf
newgrf/pb_viaduct.grf
newgrf/newshipsw.grf
newgrf/newstatsw.grf
newgrf/onewayw.grf
newgrf/trkfoundw.grf
newgrf/ttrs2w.grf
newgrf/ussetw.grf
newgrf/usroadsw.grf
newgrf/nsignalsw.grf
newgrf/usstatsw.grf
newgrf/jcindstaw.grf
newgrf/GerTramsw.grf
newgrf/tramtrkw.grf

[OzTrans]

... use an action E with an action 7 "is in title screen" check to force-activate the grf in the title screen only.

Unfortunately, it does not make any difference; I cannot get that modified currency display name to show up in the drop-down list window; i.e. in game and in the titlescreen. Otherwise the modified currency behaves normally and as defined.

I don't think I made a mistake in the code. I also tried to shift it around, i.e before and after action-8.

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31 * 6     07 92 01 03 00 01
32 * 6     0E 01 4E 57 53 61

BTW, that is with alpha 69.

[michael blunck]

In the AlpineClimate .grf, force activation does work in a69, so this may possibly be a special currency-related problem (?).

regards
Michael

[Csaboka]

Unfortunately, it does not make any difference; I cannot get that modified currency display name to show up in the drop-down list window; i.e. in game and in the titlescreen.

I think I've found the problem: there was a small bit of code patchman added to the wrong place. Fortunately, it's rather easy to fix, so it will be fixed in the next alpha/beta (whichever comes first )

[OzTrans]

I think I've found the problem: ...

Nice to know, it's not my fault.

Can someone tell me, what the F8xx IDs for the following (out of ttdpttxt.txt) are or update the wiki, please.

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// XXX shortdateformat="\04 \01\00"
// XXX longdateformat="\02 \03 \01\00"
// XXX txtltwocc="\94Kompanifargevindu\00"
// XXX txtltwoccglb="\98Globalt fargeskjema\00"
// XXX txtltwoccstm="\98Damplokomotiv\00"
// XXX txtltwoccdsl="\98Diesellokomotiv\00"
// XXX txtltwoccelc="\98Elektrisk lokomotiv\00"
// XXX txtltwoccmor="\98Monoraillokomotiv\00"
// XXX txtltwoccmgv="\98Maglevlokomotiv\00"
// XXX txtltwoccdmu="\98Diesel-multienhet\00"
// XXX txtltwoccemu="\98Elektrisk multienhet\00"
// XXX txtltwoccpaw="\98Passasjervogner\00"
// XXX txtltwoccfrw="\98Lastevogner\00"
// XXX txtltwoccbus="\98Buss\00"
// XXX txtltwocctrm="\98Trikk\00"
// XXX txtltwocctrk="\98Lastebil\00"
// XXX txtltwoccpsh="\98Passasjerskip\00"
// XXX txtltwoccfsh="\98Fraktskip\00"
// XXX txtltwoccsap="\98Lokalfly\00"
// XXX txtltwocclap="\98Langdistansefly\00"
// XXX txtltwoccfrp="\98Fraktfly\00"
// XXX txtltwocchel="\98Helikopter\00"
// XXX txtltwocclr1="\94Hoved\00"
// XXX txtltwocclr2="\94Sekundær\00"