US Set Development Thread

George · Post by **George** » 21 Jun 2005 13:54

krtaylor wrote:Both "sharp" and "smooth" are complimentary slang. What can I say? It's slang, it doesn't have to make grammatical sense.

And lead to misunderstandings

George · Post by **George** » 21 Jun 2005 13:56

Louie Armstrong wrote:in fact the station is so sharp its smooth

How smooth can be sharp?

Well, I think we should use less slang

Oz · Post by Oz » 21 Jun 2005 14:43

Okay, George, now I understand. Just a problem with semantics. I'm glad that you DO in fact like the station. Especially since I hold your opinions in the highest regard based on your fantastic work on the Long Vehicles set.

Cheers!

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 21 Jun 2005 14:48

You know what we need? A fancy bus station!

Too bad there's no way to code it.

Oz · Post by Oz » 21 Jun 2005 15:20

Dunno. Haven't really seen any architecturally significant bus stations in my time. Normally, they're just utilitarian blah kinda buildings. IF it could be coded so that the buses would enter it like the vehicle depots, and it could be drawn higher, if not wider, then it may be worthwhile to do. Unfortunately, unlike the stations, there's no dropdown menu where you could choose the bus station you wanted. If that were the case, I think it would be cool to draw them in the same achitecture as some of the stations out there to make it look like they're extensions of the buildings. THAT would be slick, er, smooth, er sharp!

BTW, got some photos for the tracking table. I love the PRR snap where the workers are cleaning fifty-odd years of soot off of the Pennsy in Pittsburgh. I've been in this building, and it is absolutely breathtaking. Also, the concourse in the Philly station is amazing. Jeez, look at the tangle of tracks going into this place! Amtrack actually did a good job when they restored that building. Finally, the Union Station in St. Loius is a gem that's been thankfully restored, unlike the MCS. Albeit, it's now a mall with a few working tracks.

One more thing. When I mentioned that I couldn't find any decent elevations of the Cincy terminal a few posts back. I didn't mean physical heights of the buiding. Elevations, in architectural terms, means drawings, or photos, of the building from a certain perspective. In the case of the Cicny terminal, all I have been able to find are photos of the front facade and the fountains in front of it. What I really could use are some pics of the side, roof and rear of the buiding. If I can't find any, I may just have to imagine what it looks like.

Sorry for the long post, all. Just got a head of steam, and kept rolling with it.!

Cheers!

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 21 Jun 2005 15:23

The St. Louis station is gorgeous, and for sure I will add that to the list.

The 30th St. Station looks, well, basically like just a Greek temple, not a train station at all. I don't think it would fit in well in the TTD world.

And the PRR Union Station is just weird. All it needs is some teeth under the arch... Again, I don't see how that would be made to work well in TTD.

Oz · Post by Oz » 21 Jun 2005 15:38

Would you rather I drew the Jacksonville station like what's already on the table, instead of the Philly station? I just want to get a nice mix of architectural styles. Two beaux art stations (GCT and MCS) are enough. It's time to mix things up a bit.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 21 Jun 2005 15:42

Yes, I think the Jacksonville station is a better exemplar of that style. That'll be a good thing to work on while you think about how to do St. Louis and Cincinnati. Do you have enough photos of St. Louis? I might be able to find you more photos of Cincinnati, but Google Image search works pretty well and should be good enough, given that we can't do it exactly the same anyway. Also search for "Cincinnati Museum Center" which is what it's called now, you'll get more photos.

The Irish · Post by **The Irish** » 21 Jun 2005 15:49

Oz,

Great work man, can't wait. what about the MCS. Will you draw some addons for the side of the terminal building? like a small park area or carpark or something, tax rank maybe.
I like to build my stations at least five tiles long, so we need something to build alongside it, in order to reach the rectangular station layout.

But anyway. It's looking "sharp".

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 21 Jun 2005 15:52

Eh, parking lots'll work in a pinch - we can make them show more or less cars depending on how many people are waiting at the station.

The Irish · Post by **The Irish** » 21 Jun 2005 16:00

good idea. But some benches and a fountain or something would be nice as well.

Oz · Post by Oz » 21 Jun 2005 16:23

Oooooooo....Okay, I'm sold on the Jacksonville station. Found a nice website dedicated to it with lots of cool pics. A very nice example of a Roman villa-style architecture.

Yep. I plan on adding a carpark onto the side of the MCS. I really like the idea of additional cars depending on the number of passengers waiting. Not looking forward to drawing a bunch of different cars, however.

I'm sure some park benches and grassy areas are in order as well.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 21 Jun 2005 16:31

Eh, the cars are small anyway. You could maybe use the cars from the open autorack that DanMacK drew, as long as he's credited it should be OK.

Oz · Post by Oz » 21 Jun 2005 17:30

Good idea. Dan? Would that be alright? If so, could you post the sprites? I looked on the tracking table, and couldn't find them. Thanks, in advance. You'll be saving me a good deal of work.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 21 Jun 2005 17:42

I can post the sprites - the tracking table only has the uncoded ones, but I've got them all.

norfolksouthern37 · Post by **norfolksouthern37** » 21 Jun 2005 17:52

so then when you pick up ppl at a station the cars disappear? somehow that just doesnt seem right.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 21 Jun 2005 18:08

Well, naturally the cars would disappear, because that means the wives saw their husbands off on the train, and then drove home.

Mostly train stations don't do long-term parking.

Marshy · Post by **Marshy** » 21 Jun 2005 19:30

norfolksouthern37 wrote:so then when you pick up ppl at a station the cars disappear? somehow that just doesnt seem right.

MB's stations do that. I think cars at a car park is a fabulous idea...it makes the station look more "packed".

Oz · Post by Oz » 21 Jun 2005 19:47

Cool! I'll use the yellow ones for taxis even. That'll work. Ya know, I was thinking, maybe during the 20's, 30's and early 40's, Ford model T's might be a better representation of the cars. Then as time progresses, the shiny, colorful cars can be used. Remeber what Henry Ford said about the model T's, "You can choose any color you want. So long as it's black."

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 21 Jun 2005 20:16

Yes, and the old Pierce Arrows, ahe Oldsmobiles and things. T's yes, but there were other cars too. So the parking lot doesn't have to be full of identical cars.

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