SerbianRailSet(ECS,PBI,FIRS&TouristSet compatible)&scenario

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 27 May 2005 14:43

Hm, when I searched something about 'Pendolino'-s on Net, I found (unfortunately, I can't remember on which site) that is 460 closest to Purno's & Lakie's data (obviously I made mistake). Maybe it will be the best if they tell which 'Pendolino' they used as model.
Anyway, you did BIG help. Thanx!

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 28 May 2005 09:22

Wile E. Coyote wrote:Hm, when I searched something about 'Pendolino'-s on Net, I found (unfortunately, I can't remember on which site) that is 460 closest to Purno's & Lakie's data (obviously I made mistake). Maybe it will be the best if they tell which 'Pendolino' they used as model.
Anyway, you did BIG help. Thanx!

Pendolino? What pendolino? ... /me doesn't get it (sorry)

Siema · Post by **Siema** » 28 May 2005 11:29

Wile E. Coyote wrote:Any closer informations about manufacturer (name of fabric)?

Unfortunately no. Only things I know that it is in Russia in city of Briańsk and the name I saw was: "Briańsk Locomotive Factory".

I didn't have much time to look hard into your tracking tables, but I think that there is at least one locomotive that I know. I'll look there once more and try to find some data for you.

Pendolino? What pendolino?

Italian train, Pendolino... you have drawn Pendolino, didn't you? It was sold to several countries, for example to Czech Republic and as I think to Serbia also...

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 28 May 2005 11:40

There are several series of "Pendolino", you really should also specify the model number.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 28 May 2005 11:57

Do you mean the Czech EMU 680 ?

fire87 · Post by **fire87** » 28 May 2005 14:12

That Pendolino is also the Norwegian BM72.. We could compare the specs, but I think the EMU 680 is A LOT faster..

EDIT: Or.. Is it a Italian train that's called Pininfarina?

Siema · Post by **Siema** » 28 May 2005 14:50

Hmm, I've checked this all

Czech EMU 680 is Italian Pendolino, of course it can have a bit different parameters (sometimes it depends on admissible speed in country, AFAIK in Czech it is 200-230 km/h). Poland also has received proposition from Italians to buy Pendolino, but there wasn't enough money. One train arrived in 1994 and passed several tests. It has also beaten speed record at Polish tracks - 250,1 km/h. But Norwegian BM72 is not Pendolino... it is city commuter and Pendolino is inter/eurocity express emu, compare Czech EMU680 and Norwegian BM72.

Wile E. Coyote, can you give Serbian marking for Pendolino, so maybye I can find something..

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 28 May 2005 20:10

Purno wrote:Pendolino? What pendolino? ... /me doesn't get it (sorry)

Czech EMU 680, as Siema said

Siema wrote:It was sold to several countries, for example to Czech Republic and as I think to Serbia also...

Siema wrote:Wile E. Coyote, can you give Serbian marking for Pendolino, so maybye I can find something..

It was in plan in late 1980's, but this plan never realized

So I put it in 2010 with hope that some day in Serbia will be high-speed train. (Other reason is that last loco is TEAM 492 from 1988 and last wagons are from 1996, it will be boring to play 50 years without new rail vehicles, won't it?

) So people, sorry for any inconvenience according to this

Siema · Post by **Siema** » 28 May 2005 20:23

Some people are playing to 3000 and beyond without new vehicles, but you're right - its too early to end game. I also plan to include in my set locomotive that is not used by Polish Railways yet, but negotiations are in course... I see that situation of Serbian Railways is quite similar as Polish..

So, you just have to ask Czech Set team for data that you need

EDIT: I've looked into your table once more and I see that you have all data for locomotives that I could eventually find.

Snail · Post by **Snail** » 28 May 2005 21:47

If I'm not wrong, your TEAM engine is another Italian-produced one, like the Pendolino: it's a BB version of our E632/E633/E652. FNM railways (operating around Milan) should have the same engine, called E620.

If you plan to add a high-speed Pendolino to the Serbian set after 2010, why not putting the ETR500 instead of the ETR460? It's faster and more modern, I doubt ETR460's will still be running in Italy at all by that time

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 29 May 2005 10:12

Snail wrote:If I'm not wrong, your TEAM engine is another Italian-produced one, like the Pendolino: it's a BB version of our E632/E633/E652. FNM railways (operating around Milan) should have the same engine, called E620.

Yes, you're right.

Snail wrote:If you plan to add a high-speed Pendolino to the Serbian set after 2010, why not putting the ETR500 instead of the ETR460? It's faster and more modern, I doubt ETR460's will still be running in Italy at all by that time

Or maybe both (maybe ETR 460 from 2005 and ETR 500 from 2010 or something like that) ? I'll see. Tracking table is allways under development (I found some pics of Orient express and I plan to add it to set too) and I don't know there will be enough IDs. Thanx for suggestions!

Snail · Post by **Snail** » 30 May 2005 05:00

(I found some pics of Orient express and I plan to add it to set too)

Interesting! The Orient Express was actually a French train, but it is true that it passed thru Serbia also. Which engines are you planning to attach it to? As a matter of fact, it's gonna be added to the French set too, of course. You can download our .XLS file to have an idea about the consists we have in mind for that train

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 30 May 2005 11:03

Snail wrote:You can download our .XLS file to have an idea about the consists we have in mind for that train

Just give me link to download

Snail · Post by **Snail** » 30 May 2005 17:32

Sure! It's in the French set thread, last but one page. The direct link should be http://www.tt-forums.net/download.php?id=31228 (hope it works).

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 30 May 2005 17:55

Do you have tracking table with pics? I'm not all the time on Net (I have dial-up connection

) so it'll be difficult for me to take a look immediately.

Snail · Post by **Snail** » 30 May 2005 18:30

Do you have tracking table with pics?

Under construction! Hopefully it will be ready soon (we'll definitely post a link on our thread as soon as it's done).

lifeblood · Post by **lifeblood** » 31 May 2005 02:48

What about a modern diesel for this set, such as the Blue Tiger. You could add a modern diesel and electric loco that you would like Serbia to purchase, in addition to the FIATs... It would complete the set, I think.

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 31 May 2005 15:31

Would you post pic and some data (if you have it)? I first thought about future electric locos (I mean 'Pendolino' because it really was in plan to purchase), but why not diesel too?

lifeblood · Post by **lifeblood** » 31 May 2005 20:43

Actually, I found something better than the Blue Tiger. I figured since there are already several GM diesels in your set, why not add another:
The JT42HW-HS
3000 hp
200 km/h
88 tonnes
TE of 141kN
available ~2005

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gb/diesel/67/pix.html

Paint it in the green Serbian livery and you've got yourself a nice diesel.

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 01 Jun 2005 16:14

Do you have wheels arrangement of that loco?

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