[Discontinued] Locomotion NL Pack (Updt: Apr 16 2005)

scrat · Post by **scrat** » 07 Apr 2005 20:20

Illegal_Alien wrote:

This one should be build in 2003 (?) Not in 1986 As far as i know is teh blue version newer then the Benelux version ( http://www.nedtrain.nl/index.cfm?template=5&newsid=1 )

1986 is a bit early, isn't it? 2003 seems good enough for me, so I will update it to the proper date. Chevy or Shifty: Can you guys confirm this?

chevyrider · Post by **chevyrider** » 07 Apr 2005 20:42

scrat wrote:
Illegal_Alien wrote:

This one should be build in 2003 (?) Not in 1986 As far as i know is Te blue version newer then the Benelux version ( http://www.nedtrain.nl/index.cfm?template=5&newsid=1 )
1986 is a bit early, isn't it? 2003 seems good enough for me, so I will update it to the proper date. Chevy or Shifty: Can you guys confirm this?

Yes, it's 2003.
It's an old carriage with a new driverstand.
Now used for a line like Haarlem to Maastricht.
So no need for driving the lok to the other side anymore.
Used in combination with 11 carriages type ICR and 1 lok N.L 1800.(Same as the 1600.)

scrat · Post by **scrat** » 07 Apr 2005 21:14

Cheers,

The *stats* on the website have been updated and so have all the vehicles in my "pending_role_out" folder.

FYI: Chevy and I have taken a closer look at the freight wagons section to look for and eliminate imbalances, inaccurate data, etc. Freight is all sorted now. That what isn't there now, will be in time.

And we still have many surprises in store.

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 08 Apr 2005 00:06

well, surprise me!

Shifty Powers · Post by **Shifty Powers** » 08 Apr 2005 07:19

scrat wrote:
Illegal_Alien wrote:

This one should be build in 2003 (?) Not in 1986 As far as i know is teh blue version newer then the Benelux version ( http://www.nedtrain.nl/index.cfm?template=5&newsid=1 )
1986 is a bit early, isn't it? 2003 seems good enough for me, so I will update it to the proper date. Chevy or Shifty: Can you guys confirm this?

I also confirm this, haven't seen them in those days, only since 2003, maby a little bit of cheating, but saw one test train in the end of 2002, I believe it whas october or november

chevyrider wrote:It's an old carriage with a new driverstand.

To be more exactly, it was a Bkd carriage, that whas changed to the BDs

strongbow · Post by **strongbow** » 08 Apr 2005 07:22

@scrat

did you update the ICE-1 compared to the one released on this board some time ago? cause it's different byte size than the previous one. just curious.

also, it might be good to have the ice-3 in the ice pack too, without the NL stuff in the text applied and also - updated?

cheers and thank you for all your work.

Shifty Powers · Post by **Shifty Powers** » 08 Apr 2005 07:24

strongbow wrote:@scrat

did you update the ICE-1 compared to the one released on this board some time ago? cause it's different byte size than the previous one. just curious.

also, it might be good to have the ice-3 in the ice pack too, without the NL stuff in the text applied and also - updated?

cheers and thank you for all your work.

There is an ICE-3 without Dutch stuff, somewhere

, use the search to find it

strongbow · Post by **strongbow** » 08 Apr 2005 07:49

i know, i have it.

just wanted to know whether scrat would release an updated version - as he did some updates on the ICE3 in the NL pack since the release.

or at least i think he did...

Illegal_Alien · Post by **Illegal_Alien** » 08 Apr 2005 08:32

Request: The older "Beneluxtrein"

Dutch tekst about the date etc:

Dordrecht, 26 mei 1974. Met de zomerdienst van 1974 deden de Benelux-trekduwtreinen hun intrede. De blauwe Beneluxtreinstellen konden het vervoer niet meer aan, zodat er ook met getrokken treinen gereden moest worden. Door het inzetten van trekduwtreinen verviel het omslachtige kopmaken in Antwerpen. Hier NMBS-loc 2554 met een trein naar Amsterdam. Het stuurstandrijtuig is een omgebouwde WRD. Op de kleurenfoto een voor de Beneluxdienst aangepaste plan W (Rotterdam, 14 juli 1973). In de verte nadert een TEE-trein met een NMBS-loc.

Pictures:

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Specs of the loc: http://www.dieselloconline.net/dossier_25.htm
Cargo specs unknown

full glory:

http://www.nicospilt.com/onze1977_18.JPG <- Picture with some tekst and colorfull "Stuurstand"

scrat · Post by **scrat** » 08 Apr 2005 09:29

strongbow wrote:i know, i have it. just wanted to know whether scrat would release an updated version - as he did some updates on the ICE3 in the NL pack since the release. or at least i think he did...

I remember I did a separate version of it in an ICE topic here. It won't be a problem to add the ICE3 to the pack. In fact, it strikes me as a good idea.

scrat · Post by **scrat** » 08 Apr 2005 09:32

Illegal_Alien wrote:Request: The older "Beneluxtrein"

I'll put this one the list. Remember, this is no guarantee that it will be made. Oppie had a minor cardiac arrest when I hit him with *my* latest wish list.

chevyrider · Post by **chevyrider** » 08 Apr 2005 09:53

This is the oldest type of a Beneluxtrain i drove.
It's based on mat '54 and bi current.
Stats for the "tweetje" (2 carriages):
Passengers 1st class 24, 2nd class 96, Speed 130 km\h.
Weight 116 ton. In use 1957> 1986
It's hard to find good info and the right color.

Mitchell · Post by **Mitchell** » 08 Apr 2005 12:42

chevyrider wrote:This is the oldest type of a Beneluxtrain i drove.
It's based on mat '54 and bi current.
Stats for the "tweetje" (2 carriages):
Passengers 1st class 24, 2nd class 96, Speed 130 km\h.
Weight 116 ton. In use 1957> 1986
It's hard to find good info and the right color.

Wow chevy did you drive that train

Yeah it really looks like a mat 54
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Is it possible to make a 1600/1700/1800 because they have both another stats i thought
(sorry for my bad english)

chevyrider · Post by **chevyrider** » 08 Apr 2005 13:13

Mitchell wrote:
chevyrider wrote:is it possible to make a 1600/1700/1800 because they have both another stats i thought
(sorry for my bad English)

For Lomo there is no difference.
N.S. sold most of the 1600 to N.S. Cargo(now Railion)
The lok's N.S kept are renumbered into 1800.
The 1700 has only an other breaking system.
This is the EP brake. (Electrical Pneumatic brake)
This brake works much faster in combination with the allstation trains like the DDAR.
On only one side there is an electrical coupling provided, to connect to other consists.
For the rest the lok's are exactly the same, including the stats.

Daan Timmer · Post by **Daan Timmer** » 08 Apr 2005 13:30

chevyrider wrote:
Mitchell wrote:
chevyrider wrote:is it possible to make a 1600/1700/1800 because they have both another stats i thought
(sorry for my bad English)
For Lomo there is no difference.
N.S. sold most of the 1600 to N.S. Cargo(now Railion)
The lok's N.S kept are renumbered into 1800.
The 1700 has only an other breaking system.
This is the EP brake. (Electrical Pneumatic brake)
This brake works much faster in combination with the allstation trains like the DDAR.
On only one side there is an electrical coupling provided, to connect to other consists.
For the rest the lok's are exactly the same, including the stats.

Chevy seems to have done his homework very well!

chevyrider · Post by **chevyrider** » 08 Apr 2005 13:49

DaaNtje wrote:[Chevy seems to have done his homework very well!

In fact it is my work

....\/....

NS 6504 · Post by **NS 6504** » 09 Apr 2005 18:48

chevyrider wrote:
DaaNtje wrote:[Chevy seems to have done his homework very well!
In fact it is my work
....\/....

Sigh it most be great to drive trains in real life.

Want that to in the future. Well who knows.

But thats off-topic.

After i downloaded the set i found out that the ICK carriges are availibel earlyer than the ICR. The ICR carriges are runnig earlyer than the ICK Carriges here. ICK is here sinds a year of two maybey three

Sorry English is not that great.

scrat · Post by **scrat** » 11 Apr 2005 09:16

All the graphics were done by Oppie, all the .dats were done by Scrat using the Vehicle Creator.

What's new?
- Railion 204 Diesel Locomotive
- Railion 232 Diesel Locomotive

Changed:
- 'Rongenwagen' Flatbed wagon (smaller version)
- 'SHMMNS' Covered steel wagon
- ZHESMTM EMU-1
- 'Rongenwagen' Flatbed wagon
- 'Zelflader 2' hopperwagon
- 'Open wagen' wagon
- 'Zelflosser' Hopper wagon
- 'Ketelwagen' Tanker wagon
- 'Bollenwagen' tanker wagon
- ICRBKD Driving Car

Unchanged:
- 'Talent' DMU-2
- ACTS 6700 Diesel Locomotive
- 2000/600 Ex War Department Diesel Locomotive
- 1500 Class Locomotive
- LINT-41 DMU-2
- PEC Mail Carriage
- Plan W Passenger Carriage
- BR 1100 Class 'Benelux' Locomotive
- ICR 'Benelux' Passenger carriage
- ICR-BKD 'Benelux' Driving car
- Plan Q 'Hondenkop' EMU-2
- Plan P 'Hondenkop' EMU-4
- DE1 'Blauwe Engel' DMU-1
- DE2 'Blauwe Engel' DMU-2
- DE3 'Muizenkop' DMU-3
- Mat '36 EMU-2
- Mat '36 EMU-3
- Mat '36 EMU-4
- Mat '46 EMU-2
- Mat '46 EMU-4
- Plan U DMU-3
- TEE 'Edelweiss' DMU-4
- TGV-PBK 'Thalys' Power car
- TGV-PBKA 'Thalys' Power car
- 'Thalys' Passenger carriage
- ICK Passenger carriage
- IC+ Passenger carriage
- 'Koelwagen' Food wagon
- 'Boxcar' Goods wagon
- 2200 Class Locomotive
- 2400 Class Locomotive
- 6400 Class Locomotive
- 200 Class 'Sik' Locomotor
- Plan Y 'Sprinter' EMU-3
- IRM3 'Regiorunner' EMU-3
- IRM4 'Regiorunner' EMU-4
- VIRM4 'Regiorunner' EMU-4
- VIRM6 'Regiorunner' EMU-6
- mDDM EMU-4
- DH1 'Wadloper' DMU-1
- DH2 'Wadloper' DMU-2
- SM90 'Railhopper' EMU-2
- ICM0 'Koploper' EMU-3
- 1100 Class Locomotive
- 1200 Class Locomotive
- 1300 Class Locomotive
- 1600 Class Locomotive
- ICR Passenger Carriage
- DDM Passenger Carriage
- DDAR 7400 Driving Car
- ICM3 'Koploper' EMU-4
- Plan X DMU-2
- Plan Y 'Sprinter' EMU-2
- Plan T EMU-4
- Plan V EMU-2
- Motor Post
- Post wagon
- DM90 'Buffel' DMU-2
- Mat '24 'Blokkendoos' Power car
- Mat '24 'Blokkendoos' Passenger carriage
- ICE-3M Power car
- ICE-3ME Power car/Passenger carriage
- ICE-3MW Passenger carriage
- 1000 Class Locomotive
- 600 Class 'Hippel' Locomotive
- NS20 'Kameel' DMU-1

Work in progress:
- NL Region
- Maglev
- Tons of other stuff

Bugs & known issues:
- mDDM has some its livery reversed.

Please give feedback on bugs (etc.) in as much detail as possible.

Enjoy!

scrat · Post by **scrat** » 11 Apr 2005 09:17

I'm (distantly) aware of the problem with ICK vs ICR. If the rail gurus (you know who your are

) can give me some guidance on this, I'll change it in the next release.

chevyrider · Post by **chevyrider** » 11 Apr 2005 09:58

This was already made clear in the post below.
I think ICK has to start in 2002, because they were released at that year by N.S.No matter if it were old carriages from Germany.

http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=238033#238033

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