SerbianRailSet(ECS,PBI,FIRS&TouristSet compatible)&scenario

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 11 Jan 2005 16:02

well, actually, it's 26+2(bumpers)

for camparation:
Gags, Habbilns, Shimms (4axle) will be 30+2
Gbgs, Gbqs, Ibbhps, Hbis (2axle) and Eas, Falls, Faccs (4axle) will be 26+2
Es (2axle) will be 22+2

the faccs you wanted to use is currently only in 31+2 version, and that's little too big, isn't it?

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 11 Jan 2005 20:53

Yes, it's length is more look like Tadds.

Do you use 3 pixels per 1 m?

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 11 Jan 2005 21:54

Wile E. Coyote wrote:Do you use 3 pixels per 1 m?

no, George does that. I just choose between available sizes [x/8 of 32] the one, which fits the vehicle size the most

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 12 Jan 2005 07:35

Hmmmm... Obviously I have some wrong measurements...

Could you post them or give link to some site? Isn't it 32 pixels maximum sprite lenth? You have 33.

Colonel32 wrote:well, actually, it's 26+2(bumpers)the faccs you wanted to use is currently only in 31+2 version, and that's little too big, isn't it?

Will be smaller version available?

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 12 Jan 2005 17:06

I don't know about this specific example, but sometimes passenger cars are long because you want them to overlap - it makes the train look continuous, which most modern passenger trainsets are.

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 12 Jan 2005 21:22

Wile E. Coyote wrote:Hmmmm... Obviously I have some wrong measurements... Could you post them or give link to some site? Isn't it 32 pixels maximum sprite lenth? You have 33.
Colonel32 wrote:well, actually, it's 26+2(bumpers)the faccs you wanted to use is currently only in 31+2 version, and that's little too big, isn't it?
Will be smaller version available?

1) 32 is the max size of the vagon ingame, the sprites can be much longer, but as Krtaylor wrote, you can use it either for overlapping, OR for engines, because there will be no railcar on the front, it can be longer than usual without graphical glitches...

2) I hope so... someday

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 13 Jan 2005 08:31

So 32 is maximum length for separate passenger and freight wagons? Meanwhile I drew one more wagon. What you think about it?

Sanchimaru · Post by **Sanchimaru** » 13 Jan 2005 08:49

I like it, Coyote. It will look much better if you add some details. For example, add to the top of the car the loading hatches

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 13 Jan 2005 11:39

Wile E. Coyote wrote:So 32 is maximum length for separate passenger and freight wagons? Meanwhile I drew one more wagon. What you think about it?

you need to reconsider the shading, and as mentioned, it needs more details, looks like a children's toy.

however, since you got the shape incredibly realistic, I would call it a good start. You kind of remind me Singaporekid's dravings - his started exactly like yours. And his drawings are awsome, now.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 13 Jan 2005 11:45

what's wrong with his shading?

hovering teacup · Post by **hovering teacup** » 13 Jan 2005 11:58

Wile E. Coyote i like your hopper
just 2 remarks

1) the obliques are too small as compared to the horizontal. you'd either make them taller or make the horizontal smaller.

2) in any case, the facing image is too long.

i suggest you to trying to paste them in a screenshot of TTD to see how they'll look when put on the rail, especially on a curve.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 13 Jan 2005 12:04

sorry for OT but what is a "oblique" and what's a "facing image"

hovering teacup · Post by **hovering teacup** » 13 Jan 2005 12:07

facing for the first of four images, obliques for 2nd and 4th. sorry for a (kind of) neologism

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 13 Jan 2005 14:22

now, what's "neologism"?

Purno: it's too contrasting, it need to bee smoother

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 13 Jan 2005 14:43

Thanx everybody for advices!

This is only unloaded wagon, and it's first version. Now back to work!
My set is comming bigger and bigger. I haven't found photos of following wagons:

Kkklms
Zkk-z
Zas-z
U-zz
Uak-zz
Ut-z
Z-vz
Ze-vz
Uas-z
Galms

If somebody has those photos, please post them.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 13 Jan 2005 15:40

I would expect that the supply of Serbian railway photos on the web might be somewhat thin. Maybe you can go out and take photos yourself, and post them to the tracking table?

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 13 Jan 2005 22:41

This is problem, cause those wagons are less in use. For example, series H are officially in use, but I never saw them! I searched on web for other rail companies wagons, but didn't find them neither.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 13 Jan 2005 22:47

Maybe there is a Serbian railway museum somewhere that you could visit?

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 13 Jan 2005 22:48

Yes, I certainly plan to go there, I must collect other data missing in tracking table.

Sanchimaru · Post by **Sanchimaru** » 14 Jan 2005 00:33

Maybe this advice is useless, but: one of my main documentation sources for the Japan set are model railways. Off course, the problem is that if serbian railways are not popular maybe there are no serbian railway models...

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