SerbianRailSet(ECS,PBI,FIRS&TouristSet compatible)&scenario

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 26 Dec 2004 12:35

singaporekid is OK at drawing steamers.

Or you could ask DanMacK if you can base off of his US steamers.

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 26 Dec 2004 14:01

krtaylor wrote:I think it would be good if you made a tracking table of the vehicles you intend to use in your set. All the sets in progress have such a thing. You can use my HTML if you like, I can send it to you. You can see the one for the Japan set here:

http://www.as-st.com/ttd/eastasia/trains.html

It's important to have photos of the trains, since most of the artists aren't from Serbia and have no idea what they'd look like.

Yes, I have those tables:
http://www.geocities.com/wilesttdpage/1435vehicles.htm (for standard gauge)
http://www.geocities.com/wilesttdpage/076vehicles.htm (for narrow gauge)

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 Dec 2004 14:16

Wile E. Coyote wrote:Yes, I have those tables:
http://www.geocities.com/wilesttdpage/1435vehicles.htm (for standard gauge)
http://www.geocities.com/wilesttdpage/076vehicles.htm (for narrow gauge)

1. Could you post these links into your signature, since the link in your signature (your main site) doesn't include a link to those pages.

2. Every image should be in color, artists need pictures which shows:

The colors
The front
The side
The roof
The complete consist (in case of MU's) including locations of doors, windows, wheels and pantographs.

3. I volunteer drawing the MU's (although I don't know when I will be able to draw them).

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 26 Dec 2004 14:39

OK, I'll post as more pics as I could collect them. Hopper tutorial is missing too

I hope I could draw one... Now I think I'll be able to draw all 2-axes cars... Thanx everybody for any kind of help...

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 26 Dec 2004 18:19

I don't know if it's practical to have both narrow-gauge and standard gauge in the same set. You maybe could use the third slot for the narrow gauge.

AndrewA · Post by **AndrewA** » 26 Dec 2004 18:29

Yes, you could, but it would need graphics, preferably something noticably different.

Also, do you know about wagon speed limits? Because you don't have any speed limits on wagons ATM. You could look into what speeds freight runs in Serbia. It makes the game very different in my experience.

Good luck with the project!

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 Dec 2004 18:29

It's probably not practical since the AI will think the 3rd rail system (narrow gauge) is better and you can't have the 3rd rail system both in unelectrified and electrified mode.

But it's more realistic to have narrow gauge too.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 26 Dec 2004 18:39

Purno wrote:It's probably not practical since the AI will think the 3rd rail system (narrow gauge) is better and you can't have the 3rd rail system both in unelectrified and electrified mode.

But it's more realistic to have narrow gauge too.

You cannot have both normal and electrified normal track, and normal and electrified narrow gauge. You'd have to give up, at least, electrified narrow gauge; that might be an acceptable compromise. But the "AI thinks 3rd system is better" is not a problem anymore, the latest Patches took care of that.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 Dec 2004 18:47

krtaylor wrote:You cannot have both normal and electrified normal track, and normal and electrified narrow gauge. You'd have to give up, at least, electrified narrow gauge; that might be an acceptable compromise.

Yeah, that's what I said

But the "AI thinks 3rd system is better" is not a problem anymore, the latest Patches took care of that.

Ah, ok, that's great!

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 27 Dec 2004 10:29

krtaylor wrote:You'd have to give up, at least, electrified narrow gauge; that might be an acceptable compromise.

But in Serbia there wasn't electrified narrow gauges. We had only steam and diesel locos. (But I don't know were electrified narrow gauges in other countries).

krtaylor wrote:I don't know if it's practical to have both narrow-gauge and standard gauge in the same set. You maybe could use the third slot for the narrow gauge.

I think that will be good idea too: narrow gauge set in other grf file. (There is no sence to design any narrow gauge vehicle till we don't have track set.) BTW, I drew a hopper. I want opinion about it:

Sanchimaru · Post by **Sanchimaru** » 27 Dec 2004 11:12

I like a lot your work, Coyote! I also think it's admirable how you are handling it all yourself.
Your constance is an example for all: you have began from the very beginning; little by little, learning from others and hearing advices. You are organizing very well the development site and the tracking tables too.

I've seen many newbies appear, launch a project, have in a week 1/3 of the graphics and data 100% completed, bite off more than they could chew, and have it abandonded within a few months the longer.

You go slow, but sure; for me that's the best way to do things.

At the moment I am quite busy with the latest touches for the Japan set, which is on the verge of being released. But I think I could help you. At the moment I am going to be busy due to holidays (sounds contradictory, I know)

When I have more spare time, I'll come back and check the progress over here. I'll tell you if I can lend some hand

Good Luck! and happy new year!

Aegir · Post by **Aegir** » 27 Dec 2004 12:45

Looking good!

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 27 Dec 2004 13:34

Thanx everybody for help, support and suggestions!

And merry Xmas and happy New year!

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 27 Dec 2004 17:02

Eas class hopper? Check out mine I did for the European Cargoset

(You might wanna search that topic for some ideas)

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 27 Dec 2004 21:25

That's great! Do you have pics of self-unloading car Faccs-z? I don't found any good pic.

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 27 Dec 2004 21:28

Faccs?

there are for different, just go one by one (left menu):

http://www.parostroj.net/katalog/nv/kat ... 0&razeni=0

or you can teka look at mine:

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 28 Dec 2004 11:12

Wile E. Coyote, that last cargo carrier looks awesome! Keep up the good work.

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 28 Dec 2004 18:33

Thanx everybody!

My Eas-z now looking like this:

Colonel32 wrote:there are for different, just go one by one (left menu):

http://www.parostroj.net/katalog/nv/kat ... 0&razeni=0

But there is not real photo, just technical drawing.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 29 Dec 2004 15:46

Wile E. Coyote wrote: But in Serbia there wasn't electrified narrow gauges... I think that will be good idea too: narrow gauge set in other grf file. (There is no sence to design any narrow gauge vehicle till we don't have track set.)

If there wasn't any electrified NG, then you could have it in the same set. You'd just draw a replacement set of narrow-gauge tracks to replace the maglev tracks, and use the maglev slot for the NG trains. No problem. The Japan set is doing something similar, using the maglev slot for the Shinkansens.

Wile E. Coyote · Post by **Wile E. Coyote** » 29 Dec 2004 23:51

OK, that's clear. I'll try to do it, but if I'll have problems I'll need help for drawing railway tracks and/or coding...

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