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Purno · Post by **Purno** » 19 Aug 2004 17:35

fire87 wrote:It is right there, so the problem is in the .pcx-file..

Have you seen the PCX file when you decoded your GRF?

(it could not accidently be the problem that you've DOS version of TT?)

fire87 · Post by **fire87** » 19 Aug 2004 17:40

The only DOS-game I have is Destruction Derby on WinXP (and it actually works)

I have never had TTD in DOS.. Or, I had once, but I changed it very quickly.

It might be that Jasc is f*cking up my .pcx-file, and with Adobe it's flashing like a crazy traffic-light.. So I don't know wich to use

I posted my PCX-file here somewhere.. But I can surely post it again

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 19 Aug 2004 17:43

fire87 wrote:I posted my PCX-file here somewhere.. But I can surely post it again

Well, I copied my sprites over this PCX file and recoded. The parts that were placed on the correct spot of the PCX file, actually show up in TT correctly, as you should be able to see in the GRF.

So, IMO/AFAIK, the only thing to do is paste the original sprites in the PCX and make sure the xrel, yrel stuff is correct.

BTW, I don't know if the NFO editor might cause the problem.

fire87 · Post by **fire87** » 19 Aug 2004 17:46

I have used the NFO-editor one time.. And it was where it should there.. But I didn't like the PCX-file because it was pink in the NFO Editor

And when I checked after that it was pink.. And I believe it's still pink

EDIT: I see you fixed the pallette

I only had about 32 colours when I was trying to code.. But the train is badly out of place now

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 19 Aug 2004 17:50

Maybe you shouldn't use the NFO Editor for xsize, ysize, xrel and yrel thingies.

You could try making a correct PCX file and doing the x,y stuffies manually.

It seems to me the NFO Editor is messing with the PCX file, which it shouldn't do

EDIT: Didn't read your edit before posting this.

fire87 · Post by **fire87** » 19 Aug 2004 17:51

It seems to me that everything is messing with the PCX-file..

EDIT: I've posted the PCX-file you sendt me..

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 19 Aug 2004 17:54

how you decoding ? (tried -d xxx.grf -p 2 ?)
how you converting to PNG ?

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 19 Aug 2004 17:56

SHADOW-XIII wrote:how you converting to PNG ?

Save as...?

fire87 · Post by **fire87** » 19 Aug 2004 17:59

Shadow-XIII wrote:how you decoding ? (tried -d xxx.grf -p 2 ?)
how you converting to PNG ?

For the first question.. I tried -d xxx.grf -p 2, and I tried -d xxx.grf.. With same effect..

And for question 2.. Purno has right, save as

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 19 Aug 2004 18:00

are you sure you have newest grfcodec

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 19 Aug 2004 18:03

Me has grfcodec.exe, last change on 17-05-2003, works fine

fire87 · Post by **fire87** » 19 Aug 2004 18:03

Yup, I'm 100% sure.. I downloaded it yesterday.. Even with the sourcecode wich I believe I don't need..

EDIT: I think I figured out why the train is so obscure.. It's because it's very, very, very off in the NFO Editor.. It's so off that the last view is just white

Now I'm wondering.. How to fix THAT

EDIT2: Sorry.. Once again I figured it out by myself..

EDIT3: I fixed it but the train is still pretty odd.. Maybe I can change Purno's GRF

EDIT4: Didn't work very well.. And, when I copied it with paint I suddenly had 32 colours again.. Trying one more time

fire87 · Post by **fire87** » 19 Aug 2004 19:12

Okey.. I'm giving up.. This is obviously the best I can do..

Website · Post by **Lakie** » 19 Aug 2004 23:49

PM me a copy.

I'll see what I can do to it.

and tell you all the changes I make, when / if I make it work.

ChrisCF · Post by **ChrisCF** » 20 Aug 2004 00:56

Correct order for the sprites should be north first, then each direction in steps of 45 degrees clockwise. That .png you posted looks like it has bits of the train in the wrong directions. Try attaching your .pcx and .nfo here (i.e. before it gets compiled and useful information lost). Best bet is to stick them in a Zip file.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 20 Aug 2004 08:01

ChrisCF wrote:Correct order for the sprites should be north first, then each direction in steps of 45 degrees clockwise. That .png you posted looks like it has bits of the train in the wrong directions. Try attaching your .pcx and .nfo here (i.e. before it gets compiled and useful information lost). Best bet is to stick them in a Zip file.

That order is done by me. I tried to paste my sprites over his pcx file, but the 'original' sprites in the pcx where a mess, so I couldn't see where to put which sprite.

fire87 · Post by **fire87** » 20 Aug 2004 08:14

Lakie wrote:PM me a copy.

I'll see what I can do to it.

and tell you all the changes I make, when / if I make it work.[/quote]

Ok, you get it soon

ChrisCF wrote:Correct order for the sprites should be north first, then each direction in steps of 45 degrees clockwise. That .png you posted looks like it has bits of the train in the wrong directions. Try attaching your .pcx and .nfo here (i.e. before it gets compiled and useful information lost). Best bet is to stick them in a Zip file.

I'm sending you the right PCX now, look below.

Purno wrote:That order is done by me. I tried to paste my sprites over his pcx file, but the 'original' sprites in the pcx where a mess, so I couldn't see where to put which sprite.

I fixed it, se below, again

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 20 Aug 2004 08:39

Okay, that PNG file looks good. AFAIK you now should reassign xsize, ysize, xrel, yrel in the NFO and recode.

fire87 · Post by **fire87** » 20 Aug 2004 08:50

Okay, but the question is.. What numbers should I edit? I don't want to mess to much with the GRF so it becomes useless..

EDIT: And I totally hope the xrel, yrel-thing is just how many numbers of pixels there are in the picture.. That's not harder than to tell

But if it is something else, then I'm not so sure how to do it..

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 20 Aug 2004 08:55

fire87 wrote:Okay, but the question is.. What numbers should I edit?

All xsize, ysize, xrel and yrel numbers in lines that refer to sprites in the pcx. You probably need to check them all.

fire87 wrote:I don't want to mess to much with the GRF so it becomes useless..

You need to make a backup of your old file, of course

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