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Prof. Frink · Post by **Prof. Frink** » 06 Jun 2004 19:46

Gurluas2000 wrote:still i liked tto more and i will keep doing..,. ttd is soooo complicated that i hate it.

The only real differences between TTO and TTD Temperate:
1. 1-way signals. You don't have to use these if you don't want to, but allow for much larger networks.
2. Maglev. Can be removed by The Patch.
3. Farmland. Once you have some money, makes next to no difference.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 06 Jun 2004 22:15

tell me you did not say ttd is complicated, i mean, a game so easy that can be played as a cheap electric train board....

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 06 Jun 2004 23:01

ttd is too complicated???

hahahahahahaha

thanks for making my day.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 06 Jun 2004 23:12

funny, wasn't it, oh my ....

ANyway, in TTD, all bridge sets are separate, so there's no reason somebody does remove the crap around mono bridges (Fink, you have done it, right?)
the only problem i can think of are superstructures, like in the wooden bridge, i mean, you casn simply remove that ugly wooden roof, but if you don't fill the gaps in the whole lot of bridges, road, etc, they will look bad...

Prof. Frink · Post by **Prof. Frink** » 06 Jun 2004 23:33

Raven wrote: funny, wasn't it, oh my ....

ANyway, in TTD, all bridge sets are separate, so there's no reason somebody does remove the crap around mono bridges (Frink, you have done it, right?)

Yes. See Dinges' graphics page.

Raven wrote:the only problem i can think of are superstructures, like in the wooden bridge, i mean, you casn simply remove that ugly wooden roof, but if you don't fill the gaps in the whole lot of bridges, road, etc, they will look bad...

I know. The road tiles are easy to fix, but I haven't got around to sorting the other ones yet, and so have not published the GRF.

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 07 Jun 2004 10:20

Gurluas2000 wrote:still i liked tto more and i will keep doing..,. ttd is soooo complicated that i hate it.

Complicated?PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT. Even Simutrans is more complicated than TTD. Try it for a change and come tell me that TTD is more complicated and ill laff at your face..

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 07 Jun 2004 15:00

hahahahahahaha

ha

TTD is complicated????

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 07 Jun 2004 16:23

Born Acorn wrote:ttd is too complicated???

hahahahahahaha

thanks for making my day.

Born Acorn wrote:hahahahahahaha

ha

TTD is complicated????

I think it is enough

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 07 Jun 2004 17:34

ooops?

Gurluas2000 · Post by **Gurluas2000** » 07 Jun 2004 18:46

lets jsut say i like and want tto more... sumone finish this plz.

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 07 Jun 2004 18:48

nobody wants to, though.

Prof. Frink · Post by **Prof. Frink** » 07 Jun 2004 18:50

Gurulas: Save all the pics in this topic.
Then extract both your TTD and TTO .GRF files. Replace the appropriate sprites from TTD with their equivalents from TTO. Use GW's screenies instead of the TTO sprites if you prefer.
Re-encode your TTD .GRF files.
Play.
Decode/Tweak/Encode/Repeat.

Gurluas2000 · Post by **Gurluas2000** » 27 Jun 2004 19:05

ok see.. i know this is a bot old but id give ya + & -

ttd
+
maglev
realisctic road tunnels
support for winxp and ttdpatches
seasons.

-
1950(shorter game)
ugly temperate grass
wierd monorail
bad monorail depots
lesser vehicles
bad new industry grf
wierd farm system that covers too much.
and much more...
tto will rule until sumone make the long awaited hybrid that eliminate ttd's minus and adds ttd + to tto.
first then it will rule...
ttdo is dead... it was else the hybrid i waited for

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 27 Jun 2004 19:46

it looks like you are not informed

1950(shorter game) - can be longer with TTDPatch (eternalgame, startyear)
ugly temperate grass - can be repainted/replaced even with tto graphic using grfcodec
wierd monorail - can be turned off with TTDPatch (unifiedmaglev)
bad monorail depots - can be repainted/replaced using grfcodec
lesser vehicles - new vehicles can be add with TTDPatch
bad new industry grf - graphic can be repainted/replaced using grfcodec
wierd farm system that covers too much. - as for me it is more realistic (and only 1 of those you said isn't already added/fixed/possible)

and much more... - I doubt you will find something that cannot be changed (or already it is) with TTDPatch/grfcodec/other tool

tto will rule until sumone make the long awaited hybrid that eliminate ttd's minus and adds ttd + to tto.

there is that Hybrid, TTDPatch called, if you will use proper configuration you can change game in very many diffirent ways

first then it will rule...

I doubt but at least it will be better for you

ttdo is dead... it was else the hybrid i waited for

so do it yourself ... get TTO, grfcodec, read some tutorials how to create graphic (search the forum, there were plenty of topic about that)

ps. don't reply here until you start doing this project, otherwise don't (digging without purpose is bad)

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 27 Jun 2004 20:46

Its so annoying when you post the same thing everywhere. You made several in the OTT and OTTD forums.

Hardly anyone else prefers tto over ttd. It why this project was abandoned, and why there is no tto patch! Most people would agree that the ttd grass is better than tto. The farm system in tto is wierd, only one field and not being able to build on it.

However, Id like to try and put the jinty in, but I cannot code so I would have to replace an existing train.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 27 Jun 2004 23:07

oh boy, i'll code that jinty or whatever vehicle you want for your shiny ttdpacht, if you post here the 8 views, and the stats, it's piece of cake. But you shouldn't try to get everything done, work a bit yourself pleeeze!!

Gurluas2000 · Post by **Gurluas2000** » 28 Jun 2004 06:21

ok lemme see...

il give ya all the lost vehicle u ix it and i fix graphic ok?

lemme just state that leyland lion bus uses regal bus graphic....
chaney crab uses chaney jubilee graphic
and ginzu a3 or a2 i dont remember uses ginzu a4 graphic...

but the main problem is im not so good with

btw is it really so hard to say gurluas?

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 28 Jun 2004 16:11

btw is it really so hard to say gurluas?

what do you mean?

as i said, just post a table stating name data and graphics (detailed, i mean, i don't want to look for it somewhere, just post it here) of every vehicle you want. Then coding is awful simple, and maybe you'll be a bit happier

Gurluas2000 · Post by **Gurluas2000** » 28 Jun 2004 16:40

i mean ppl say gurulas or stuff like that.
now il get data.
here sum facts
hereford bus1 uses regal graphic
chaney crab uses chaney jubilee graphic same for bull r1 and ginzu a3..
il get more info soon on dates etc...
just state that the trucks, all of em must be researched in 1925 not 35... as they were in tdd.
il get tech data now.
heres the chippe steam graphic...
heres tech data...

'chippie' steam class

cost:11,718 weigth:45t
speed:35 mph power:250hp
running cost:922/yr
capaticy:n/a
designed:1925 life: 14 years
max. reliability:94%

Chaney 'Crab'

cost:13,541 weigth: 75t
speed:50 mph power:500hp
running cost: 1,447/yr
capaticy:n/a
designed: 1925 life:20 years
max. reliability:98%

Ginzu 'a3' steam

cost: 17,187 weigth:150t
speed:70 mph power 1,100 hp
running cost:2,800/yr
capaticy:n/a
designed:1928 life:20 years
max. releiability:89%

hereford tiger bus
cost:4,578 speed: 30mph
running cost:535/yr
capaticy:25 passengers
designed:1926 life:10 years
max. reliability:77

thats all folks!

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 28 Jun 2004 19:13

don't you want some more "advanced" graphics for the trains?, i mean, you'll get tired of the standard steamer!,

thanks for the data, but tomorrow i'm goiing on holidays, so you (and other tto lovers ) will have to wait. by the way, i'll overwrite id's from toyland, does it matter?

EDIT: ey wait, ain't that jinty the same as in DB set ??, heeh

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