Network-Game

pETe! · Post by **pETe!** » 27 Mar 2004 10:32

If I start a 2-Player Game on 98SE(Host) and 95B(Client) the game slows down imediately if the conection stands.
You cannot move the mouse(Well, you can, but it´s an inplayable LAAAG!)

What must i do that i´m able to play in network?
1-Player works perfectly in normal speed.

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 27 Mar 2004 10:34

normally, without patch the game would desynch ... with patch it is just very slow ... you have to have connection with less than 20ms ping between hosts

pETe! · Post by **pETe!** » 27 Mar 2004 14:51

ping is <10ms

but you cannot play with these lag

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 27 Mar 2004 18:46

both of you should have the same TTD, TTDPatch, both configs (ttdpatch.cfg,newgrf.cfg), DirectX versions

pETe! · Post by **pETe!** » 27 Mar 2004 19:27

yes, they have.

pETe! · Post by **pETe!** » 28 Mar 2004 13:29

Bestandaufnahme:

1. Computer:
Windows 95B, 48 MB RAM, 2GB HD, PentiumMMX@233MhZ, 2MB Grapic

2. Computer:
Windows 98SE, 128 MB RAM, 10GB+4GB HD, PentiumIII(Kamai)@500MhZ, 32MB Grapic@AGMx1

Network:
100Mbit LAN (over Switch)

Both run perfectly in Singleplayer

Sokko · Post by **Sokko** » 28 Mar 2004 14:13

Windows 95 is known to be extremely flaky when it comes to any kind of networking, especially between different operating systems. Windows 98 is a quantum leap forward in networking compatibility, so I'd recommend installing it on your first computer if you can get ahold of it; you have the system specs to do so.

Aside from that, you could try a null-modem cable connection rather than going through a LAN. They're pretty cheap these days.

Oracle · Post by **Oracle** » 28 Mar 2004 14:37

Update to the latest DirectX version on both computers. That seems to help quite a bit. (At least, it did for me.)

pETe! · Post by **pETe!** » 28 Mar 2004 17:04

Windows 98 is a quantum leap forward in networking compatibility, so I'd recommend installing it on your first computer if you can get ahold of it; you have the system specs to do so.

Do you think this will slow down the Computer too much??

Aside from that, you could try a null-modem cable connection rather than going through a LAN. They're pretty cheap these days.

The result will be a big hole in the wall(wand).

Update to the latest DirectX version on both computers. That seems to help quite a bit. (At least, it did for me.)

W95 doesn´t support DX9

Sokko · Post by **Sokko** » 28 Mar 2004 19:14

W95 doesn´t support DX9

Exactly. That's why it's so flakey.

Do you think this will slow down the Computer too much??

Lessee...

Processor Minimum: 486DX2 @ 66MHz
Processor Recommended: Pentium, Pentium MMX, or Pentium II
Your Processor: Pentium MMX
<check>

Memory Minimum: 16MB
Memory Recommended: 32MB
Your Memory: 48MB
<check>

Hard Disk Space Minimum: 225MB
Hard Disk Space Recommended: 500MB maximum
Your Hard Disk Space: 2GB
<check>

And you're okay on video so long as you have something that can go to 16 million colors, with 256 colors being the bare minimum. I'd say you "check" out for installing Windows 98.

But that's only if you can find a copy.

Oracle · Post by **Oracle** » 28 Mar 2004 19:42

pETe! wrote:
Oracle wrote:Update to the latest DirectX version on both computers. That seems to help quite a bit. (At least, it did for me.)
W95 doesn´t support DX9

Maybe I should have phrased it as: update to the latest version of DirectX that you can (DirectX 8 in your case). It also wouldn't be a bad idea to make sure both computers have the same version running. I have a 1 GHz Athlon running XP and a 300 MHz PII running Windows 98 and updating the 98 system to DX8 speeded up my multiplayer significantly.

You are running the Windows version of TTD & TTDPatch though, I take it? What I've been saying only applies to the Windows version. I can't help with the DOS one.

(@Sokko: I doubt upgrading to W98 would do anything much. But maybe I'm wrong.)

Sokko · Post by **Sokko** » 28 Mar 2004 19:52

Windows 98 is a quantum leap forward in networking compatibility

Trust me when I say this has tons of personal experience backing it up. I learned the hard way how crappy W95 is with networking, and I greatly sympathize with anyone trying to do so.

Oh yeah, and do what Oracle says. Having the latest version of DirectX has been known to solve many problems.

pETe! · Post by **pETe!** » 28 Mar 2004 19:58

Do you think that network work stable if i use DOS-Version and if i doen´t upgarde to 98?

Well, it rans realy slower than 95, but it several time ago, i cannot remember if it has effect my games.

Well, the PC has the min. givens for ME too, but ME would slow down it very.
So it id checked for minimum, but it isn´t the same perfomance.

Network works perfectly for me at the moment.
Well, i use only VNC and fileSharing (freigabe)

BlackD · Post by **BlackD** » 02 Apr 2004 14:29

hi
i have been playing with my friend by network (LAN) and when we wanna buy a bus the game crashes. music from game is still playing and i can only see the last screen of game. only way to end this is alt+ctrl+delete (im ending the process). how can i remove this bug ? oh i forgot, when we buy a train the game is working normal.
sorry for my english.

Oracle · Post by **Oracle** » 02 Apr 2004 15:11

Are you using the latest alpha of the patch?
Download it from http://www.ttdpatch.net/src/ if you aren't. The stability of multiplayer is greatly improved in these versions.

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 02 Apr 2004 15:28

And if you find it laggy on the LAN, try putting "miscmods 8192" in your ttdpatch.cfg. Let us know how it goes...

Korenn · Post by **Korenn** » 02 Apr 2004 15:52

Sinaasappel and me did some extensive TTD testing over a lan, and came up with the following.

2 player works fine as long as:
you turn off the features flagged as non-multiplayer by the wiki
you turn off the features flagged as possibly not working by the wiki
you use the IPX protocol
you have music off (no idea if this actually helps, but we didn't have any and we didn't have ANY problems)
you are on a LAN with ping < 10 ms

we had miscmod 8192 on

BlackD · Post by **BlackD** » 03 Apr 2004 07:40

i only downloaded newest version of patch and all is working now. thanks guys. one more question. is 3 or more player game avaible in this version of patch ? if is then how start a 3 player game ?

Korenn · Post by **Korenn** » 04 Apr 2004 13:29

3 players can connect, but isn't as yet playable unless you like slide shows

BlackD · Post by **BlackD** » 04 Apr 2004 17:02

i like slide shows

well i will wait for playable version.

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