[FORK] Dutch Road Furniture for Quast65's RoadSet

[OzTrans]

... I've asked JGR if it is possible to make bends/curves one-way too.

Yes, they are one way; just make sure, you also place one-way arrows either side of T-junctions.

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[dol422]

... I've asked JGR if it is possible to make bends/curves one-way too.

Yes, they are one way; just make sure, you also place one-way arrows either side of T-junctions.

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I think he meant the curves themselves, without any straight pieces.

[Quast65]

That is indeed wat I meant, the curves themselves.
As the 3x3 layout doesnt have any straight pieces to put the one-way arrows.
Could be handy at some junctions too.

[OzTrans]

That is indeed what I meant, the curves themselves.
As the 3x3 layout doesn't have any straight pieces to put the one-way arrows.
Could be handy at some junctions too.

Yes, I get that now. Just recently sloped roads got one-way arrows; curves would then need bent ones.

But, being able to make T-Junctions one-way explicitly could solve your problem, provided entry/exits are on the driving side.

[Quast65]

curves would then need bent ones.

Good point, I've forwarded this info (and the suggestion to start out with T-sections first) to JGR on Discord.

provided entry/exits are on the driving side

Does the one-way work like this then with the pathfinder?
- Lets assume that vehicles drive on the right side of the road
- Then ONLY right-turns onto or off the one-way section are allowed

[OzTrans]

Does the one-way work like this then with the pathfinder?
- Lets assume that vehicles drive on the right side of the road
- Then ONLY right-turns onto or off the one-way section are allowed

Correct; that is my understanding. If the stem of a T-Junction were on the left side, then you would not be allowed to make the T-Junction One-Way.

Here is the Wiki about One-way Roads. Nothing would change, except being able to set the T-Junction One-way directly.

At the moment the pathfinder works that way, if you have one-way arrows to the left and right of the T-Junction bar and the stem is on the right.

[Quast65]

Gotcha, forwarded it to JGR's Discord

[Mrsunman]

Gotcha, forwarded it to JGR's Discord

Hello, its that 'hutt enterprise' guy from the discord, here with a few suggestions :
-Different textured and coloured tunnel pieces, maybe a darker grey one and tile versions (with squares/patterns)
-45°tunnel pieces, which could work as retaining walls
-tunnel pieces with paths near the top
-tunnel pieces with bushes near the top?
-slim stair pieces
-Diagonal lined pieces (similar to japanese sidings in some parts)
-Dutch moterway piece with concrete median

Of course, i understand if some of these sound a bit too far out there, but they could still be some pretty nice additions

[Quast65]

First of all, I would like to state that I dont want to spend too much time anymore on this GRF.
I want to move on to other projects.
Also I feel that some suggestions are too much eyecandy-focussed without keeping the general mechanics of the game in mind (like the mini-roundabouts and diagonal off/on-ramps to highways).
And without patches/changes to the mechanics, those objects will only be useful for nice screenshots, but not in a moving game, which I find kinda useless...

With regards to Mrsunmans suggestions:

-Different textured and coloured tunnel pieces, maybe a darker grey one and tile versions (with squares/patterns)
-45°tunnel pieces, which could work as retaining walls
-tunnel pieces with paths near the top
-tunnel pieces with bushes near the top?

As for the tunnelpieces I will add these:

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So, transitionpieces from a full-tiled bridgefoundation to my tunnelsides.

Also, I will look into doing flat pieces with straight (tunnel-concrete) foundations.
But because of the tiny ridge I have on the edges, those may end up in way too many possible options (also to connect them to the sloped versions). But I will research that.

With that, the tunnelsides are done, enough.
Otherwise this GRF ends up more like a landscape-GRF, rather than Dutch Road Furniture.
So, no different textured/colored tunnelconcrete, no full sloped versions and other things.
If you want those, make a new GRF

-slim stair pieces

I guess you mean tunnelsides with stairs going down them? Then, no.
Workers usually access these from the top or below with ladders they bring with them, or via access/exit-points in tunnels.

-Diagonal lined pieces (similar to japanese sidings in some parts)

Please elaborate, or links to pictures, I dont know what you mean.
But if you mean off/on-ramps as overlaps (like some Garry did), then no, the game-mechanics are not suitable for those (as the vehicles wont follow the diagonal road).

-Dutch moterway piece with concrete median

Dutch motorways dont have concrete medians.
They are only used for roadworks, and then most of the times the drivinglanes are shifted/narrowed and that may also conflict with the way vehicles drive.
But it is something I may take a look into, roadworks are pretty common in The Netherlands, so they may be a nice addition in combination with the Matrix-signs (maybe also an accident)..

So, to sum up, what I will do:

*Tunnelsides:
-Transitionpieces from a full-tiled bridgefoundation
-Research flat pieces with straight (tunnel-concrete) foundations

*Roundabouts:
-Micro-roundabouts (1-tile-overlap)
-Mini-roundabouts (1-tile-overlap)
-Regular roundabout (3x3 roadlayout)
-Large roundabout (5x5 roadlayout)

*Roadworks/accidents:
-Will research these.

[Mrsunman]

First of all, I would like to state that I dont want to spend too much time anymore on this GRF.
I want to move on to other projects.
Also I feel that some suggestions are too much eyecandy-focussed without keeping the general mechanics of the game in mind (like the mini-roundabouts and diagonal off/on-ramps to highways).
And without patches/changes to the mechanics, those objects will only be useful for nice screenshots, but not in a moving game, which I find kinda useless...

With regards to Mrsunmans suggestions:

-Different textured and coloured tunnel pieces, maybe a darker grey one and tile versions (with squares/patterns)
-45°tunnel pieces, which could work as retaining walls
-tunnel pieces with paths near the top
-tunnel pieces with bushes near the top?

As for the tunnelpieces I will add these:
Example920.png
So, transitionpieces from a full-tiled bridgefoundation to my tunnelsides.

Also, I will look into doing flat pieces with straight (tunnel-concrete) foundations.
But because of the tiny ridge I have on the edges, those may end up in way too many possible options (also to connect them to the sloped versions). But I will research that.

With that, the tunnelsides are done, enough.
Otherwise this GRF ends up more like a landscape-GRF, rather than Dutch Road Furniture.
So, no different textured/colored tunnelconcrete, no full sloped versions and other things.
If you want those, make a new GRF

-slim stair pieces

I guess you mean tunnelsides with stairs going down them? Then, no.
Workers usually access these from the top or below with ladders they bring with them, or via access/exit-points in tunnels.

-Diagonal lined pieces (similar to japanese sidings in some parts)

Please elaborate, or links to pictures, I dont know what you mean.
But if you mean off/on-ramps as overlaps (like some Garry did), then no, the game-mechanics are not suitable for those (as the vehicles wont follow the diagonal road).

-Dutch moterway piece with concrete median

Dutch motorways dont have concrete medians.
They are only used for roadworks, and then most of the times the drivinglanes are shifted/narrowed and that may also conflict with the way vehicles drive.
But it is something I may take a look into, roadworks are pretty common in The Netherlands, so they may be a nice addition in combination with the Matrix-signs (maybe also an accident)..

So, to sum up, what I will do:

*Tunnelsides:
-Transitionpieces from a full-tiled bridgefoundation
-Research flat pieces with straight (tunnel-concrete) foundations

*Roundabouts:
-Micro-roundabouts (1-tile-overlap)
-Mini-roundabouts (1-tile-overlap)
-Regular roundabout (3x3 roadlayout)
-Large roundabout (5x5 roadlayout)

*Roadworks/accidents:
-Will research these.

alrighty, i look forward to seeing what you can do

[Quast65]

Version 003:

dutchroadfurniture_vQ65_v003.grf

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!!!BE AWARE!!!
Not compatible with v002, use in a new game!!

See first post for changelog

Sources:

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Work on this is slow, because of reallife distractions
I will now focus on adding roundabouts.

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[Quast65]

Version 004:

dutchroadfurniture_vQ65_v004.grf

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See first post for changelog (or the pictures in the next post)

Sources:

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[Quast65]

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[belgi]

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Splendor!!! Thanks for your work. Those roundabouts, they are absolutely perfect! I'm going to try it right away.
Perhaps it would be worth explaining how to build and use those roundabouts.

I had problems in the lower branches...

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I wish you a nice day

[Quast65]

Splendor!!! Thanks for your work.

Thank you!

I had problems in the lower branches...

Delete these medians:

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Then all is (except for the usual overlap glitches) fine

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Downwards overlaps have extra issues, they dont overlap other objects very nicely.
Thats why those middlepieces have the "extensions" towards the medians

[kamnet]

I will also load it up to BaNaNas if no major issues arise... (fingers crossed)

Website link is still pointing to the old devzone at https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture

[Quast65]

I will also load it up to BaNaNas if no major issues arise... (fingers crossed)

Website link is still pointing to the old devzone at https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture

Cheers, will fix in next version!

[belgi]

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Delete these medians:
Example999.png
Then all is (except for the usual overlap glitches) fine
Example998.png
Downwards overlaps have extra issues, they dont overlap other objects very nicely.
Thats why those middlepieces have the "extensions" towards the medians

Aaah!
Thanks for advice! It is OK now

I also have to say that it took me about half an hour to figure out that I had to make the intersection classically first and then cover it with a roundabout

Anyway, nice job! Thank you for such things.

I wish you a nice day

[Quast65]

(road)Works In Progress

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[RoyalExamination9410]

How do you get it to work? I supposedly downloaded the latest update but it only shows the older version when I load it to my openttd. I can't see any of the newly added features