Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

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Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by McZapkie » 17 Dec 2016 22:17

There is lack of slow but cheap narrow gauge sets publicly available, not counting Serbian or Japan sets which are rather mainline sets, and existing narrow gauge tracks are not so cheap.

Main assumption of 600mm narrow gauge set is to provide cheap solution (especially infrastructure maintenance) for games with hard settings/high base costs, for easy company startups, local transport solutions, industrial supply distribution etc.

Thanks to andythenorth courtesy, I used HEQS steam locomotives and freight cars. I focused on prototypes build in Germany, they worked in many other countries. I also added two types of passenger cars and one mail/passenger car with option to rebuild into diesel railcar.
Rolling stock have 3 livery options and is fully autorefittable.

Because typical narrow gauge track are too wide for HEQS rolling stock (and too expensive), I decided to add dedicated tracktype 'ng60', which look similar to tram tracks and its costs are balanced to set low speeds overall and capacities.
600mm narrow gauge trains and original HEQS industrial trams
600mm narrow gauge trains and original HEQS industrial trams
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600mm Narrow Gauge set is available on bananas on-line content service.

Source code is hosted by http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ng600

PS. Todo list: add diesel locomotive and horses.
Not planned: electric locomotives.
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Re: Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by Supercheese » 17 Dec 2016 22:30

Hey, that looks really cool! :)
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Re: Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by GarryG » 17 Dec 2016 23:17

Just downloaded this set and they are excellent.

Great for bring logs from your Logging Camp to the main line sidings for transfer to main line trains.

Works with your Wired too so that even better.

Congratulations .. well done.
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Re: Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by NekoMaster » 18 Dec 2016 01:29

I wonder, will their be electric locomotives too?
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Re: Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by McZapkie » 18 Dec 2016 17:10

NekoMaster wrote:I wonder, will their be electric locomotives too?
No, I stated it at the end of initial post, no electric locomotives are planned. Maybe something like HF 130 C or LKM Ns1 diesel locomotive to expand lifetime of this set.


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Re: Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by McZapkie » 23 Dec 2016 00:03

New 1.0 version was released.
Beside of costs tweaking and depot repainting (with snow version), I added minecarts and horse, which can pull these minecarts (or regular wagons, however they are heavy). Minecarts and horses are available from y. 1700.
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Re: Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by GarryG » 23 Dec 2016 00:34

Slight problem with version 1.

Previous versions worked with NuTracks and your Wired when loaded after those too, but version 1 unfortunately doesn't work no matter what order I tried.

Tried it on it's own and has a darker set of rails not the light ones in previous sets.

Tried it with only NuTracks and Wired thinking I might have something else loaded that conflicted with it, but still now allow me to use.

I also tried different years 1700 and 1930 thinking might be a date problem, but sorry still not work.

EDIT: I using OpenTTD 1.6.1
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Re: Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by McZapkie » 23 Dec 2016 18:23

GarryG wrote:Slight problem with version 1.
Previous versions worked with NuTracks and your Wired when loaded after those too, but version 1 unfortunately doesn't work no matter what order I tried.
Strange, I cannot reproduce this issue, it is working with or without nutrack, even if nutrack, metro track, wired, trackbed and pipeline are present, and nutrack have its own narrow gauge track forced, all is working.
Could you elaborate, what is wrong? Any error messages?
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Re: Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by GarryG » 23 Dec 2016 22:09

McZapkie wrote:Strange, I cannot reproduce this issue
Think I found the problem beside the problem being me ..

In my NewGRF Settings I had both 0.08 and 1.0 was available to choose from, when I choosed 0.08 all work, and when I choose 1.0 not work.

So I went into the newgrf folder and removed .08 completely and presto and all working fine now.

Just one of those strange things.

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Re: Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by McZapkie » 07 Jan 2017 12:57

New version 1.1 is available online.
I added diesel locomotive to extend timeframe of this set up to 1970.
Project is open for translations.
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Re: Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by McZapkie » 12 Feb 2017 11:36

New version is available, with two diesels, the last one is weak and slow, but last in purchase list forever. Cargo capacity is tweaked, special double log trailers are added, two kind of horse harnesses are available for early stages of the game.
Track is somewhat darken to avoid high contrast between reserved and normal track.
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Re: Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by Lesarthois » 29 Apr 2017 20:19

Hello
This is a great mod. I would liek to help, but I dunno anything about coding or even drawing sprites...
I think Decauville machines would be great to add, as they were quite popular (up to a point that here, any super narrow gauge train is called a Decauville).

Regardless, I started a new game, in 1800, and tried the horses. And I found that the sound they make is looping.
I don't know if it's a bug or a feature, but in both case, it's annoying.

Anyway I hope to see more content. I like narrow gauge trains and I found a bit sad that they receive so little attention.

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Re: Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by michael blunck » 30 Apr 2017 07:41

Lesarthois wrote: I like narrow gauge trains and I found a bit sad that they receive so little attention.
There is Snail´s French Trains Set - Narrow Gauge.

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Re: Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by NekoMaster » 01 May 2017 16:58

michael blunck wrote:
Lesarthois wrote: I like narrow gauge trains and I found a bit sad that they receive so little attention.
There is Snail´s French Trains Set - Narrow Gauge.

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But theres no download for it.
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Re: Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by Gwyd » 01 May 2017 18:38

If you read through, you'll understand why.

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Post by michael blunck » 01 May 2017 19:00

NekoMaster wrote: But theres no download for it.
Snail wrote:
Nyrill wrote: Where can i download this set?
You can't yet, but if you'd like to try it out, you can PM me and I'll send you a copy of the playtesting version.
Just, if you want to go this way, keep in mind it's still unfinished.

BTW I've got nothing more than 2 more vehicles to code now... Then I'll have to iron out the last bugs and maybe add some extra features...
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Re: Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by Lesarthois » 01 May 2017 20:45

I contacted the author to test it. But his GRF is maybe a bit too much on the "realistic" side. :D I know, I'm picky. I'll still test it, I liek the idea of rack and pinions tracks.
But I also want to see more of that 600 mm GRF!

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Re: Generic 600mm narrow gauge trains inspired by HEQS

Post by McZapkie » 02 May 2017 13:23

I'm playing without sound and was unaware of looped horse sound, I will try to fix in in next release.
Where I can find any technical data about Devauville locomotives?
This grf is rather generic set, not intended to cover all real existed 600mm stock (it would be incredible giant).
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