ECS and food!

[Samme]

So, I've started my very first game with ECS, I know I'm way behind

I have all ECS-grfs, vehicle-grfs and TTRS-grf, all loaded in the right order.

Stations say the accept food, but no trains or trucks can leave anything at them?

Am I missing something really basic here?

[planetmaker]

possibly. But you could post your savegame and then we can better judge what might have gone wrong or what is missing.

[Samme]

I've added the file!

Thanks for helping out!

[planetmaker]

Right... you have a very lengthy list of NewGRFs and something's messed up there. The cargo "food" is defined twice in your game. You thus have two different kinds of food which you cannot distinguish other by finding out that some stations accept the one kind and not the other or vice versa. The only NewGRFs which I know of to define cargos are all of the ECS NewGRFs and the TTRS NewGRF, but given that list and that I'm not very familiar with many, it's no guarantee.

My guess is that TTRS and ECS houses conflict. Resolution: Only use one of those NewGRFs and start a new game with a NewGRF list modified accordingly. I'd try first without TTRS as ECS NewGRFs are designed to work together and they require that there are no other NewGRFs which define cargos. If you started a new game without TTRS and ECS NewGRFs as-is in this savegame, and you still end up with town stations with TWO food cargos defined: then please report in the ECS thread that their author can have a look at it.

And to bare any questions by others: NewGRFs were not modified after game start, thus it's definitely the fault of one or another or a combination of NewGRFs used.

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NewGRFs:
4D656F91 937BA8D623EC2298B8B703EB183B2587 ecs_town_vector-1.1.219jun2011/ecstown.grf
4D656F97 EDD51D4944C05B7C07872D68B0373069 ecs_agricultural_vector-1.1.219jun2011/ecsagri.grf
4D656F9F C3C038168C5E7273BD17D833C353E35B ecs_basic_vector_ii-1.1.219jun2011/ecsbas2.grf
4D656F9C 1F6B20372197A5E937F1AE434ED0C2FA ecs_chemical_vector_ii-1.1.219jun2011/ecschem2.grf
4A530A70 8E8EB158A4DEF483DE473B48FF92CC64 ecs_industry_addon-2012.12.26/ecsadd.grf
4D656F96 682C2B4B460032782186BF03AE2C156C ecs_construction_vector-b527dec2010/ecsconstw.grf
4D656F94 A6BC43D8CF1F931FAB6955CEC6DE7F19 ecs_machinery_vector-1.1.219jun2011/ecsmach.grf
4D656F9D A4D9273D4C56BD2432E8994B95652D65 ecs_houses-1.1.219jun2011/ecshouse.grf
4D656F95 CD1F5F59485681A857648BE5322EDCE8 ecs_wood_vector-1.1.219jun2011/ecswood.grf
6D620401 C5ACB6D5536A464FD78871D91840A35F grfpack/ottdc_grfpack/8_vehicles/trains_wagons/dbsetxl/dbsetxlw.grf
6D620402 66ADF9AC90D97C59ED783FEC7E9706F9 grfpack/ottdc_grfpack/8_vehicles/trains_wagons/dbsetxl/z_ecs/dbxl_ecs.grf
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659E5728 A63335CE72E5E4844675C4632598B76B grfpack/ottdc_grfpack/9_last/shiptool/shiptoolv4.grf
6D620004 70649F1AFC954942173B0AA89C1E8B14 grfpack/ottdc_grfpack/8_vehicles/ships/newships/newshipsw.grf
6D620005 E4C18D726BADD37045283D24E56505FD grfpack/ottdc_grfpack/8_vehicles/ships/newships/nshp_ecs.grf
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274D2348 379FF11FB0D4F20DF9D5273A9461B87D db_double_deck_coaches-v0.3/dbddw.grf
414E0101 5D665C64693A438E3046C22666F46E08 fish_ship_set-0.9.2/fish.grf
41501202 7FD3A30F749BFA5D5E1DF61326AD9B08 heqs_heavy_equipment_set-1.5.1/heqs.grf
4A4D0101 AFE4E75999A3FF92D4B01DBEE9A803E9 sailing_ships-0.62/ss.grf
47310308 13643664ACF2AC720E54BB0FD0EE83DD grfpack/ottdc_grfpack/8_vehicles/planes/rusplane/tu204_gr.grf
44440A01 FCEEC76CF44EC23E7FE9C88048CF11CC av8_aviators_aircraft_set-2.21/pb_av8w.grf
47370412 54D7956B2F51143CAB8357EF4EB02E15 grfpack/ottdc_grfpack/8_vehicles/planes/rusplane/787_8_s7_gr.grf
57A50001 318F3C3F17CA68EAD533BAC88B093094 was_world_airliners_set-0.1/was.grf
4642FB21 117F6F1F07C18A9C15ADC6127AFBAE97 modern_tram_set-3.1/motraset_r3.1.grf
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524B0104 E513211298CDEC4CF469B655CC4B71AB grfpack/ottdc_grfpack/z_obsolete/gertrams/gertramsw.grf
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41570102 CD86DA4FC58F68393F060B8E0211AEC8 modern_waypoint-2/modern_waypoint2.grf
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4A53AA01 E4C0F82E58963374BC14F7875C4AA59D nogridland-2010.10.14/nogridland.grf
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504A0013 E2FB4F9E66207F8016B7303323FDD00C isrdwestyle_objects-1.0/isrdwe_objects_v1_0.grf
44578619 B30A5E35634A59D2BDD9C2389CEDBF2C dwestationtiles__fences-v1.2/fences.grf

[Michi_cc]

I'd expect newcargow.grf to be the culprit as that one adds food to temperate. It's also severely outdated and should be generally retired.

Lesson to learn: don't cram you NewGRF list full of stuff you have no idea about.

[planetmaker]

I'd expect newcargow.grf to be the culprit as that one adds food to temperate. It's also severely outdated and should be generally retired.

Lesson to learn: don't cram you NewGRF list full of stuff you have no idea about.

Oh, I totally agree. The presence of that NewGRF slipped my attention when scanning the list of NewGRFs. At the same time I'm then somewhat reliefed that it's not a clash of TTRS and ECS

[Samme]

Thanks for your help guys!

Yes, as you can see, loads of grf's, since it's only a "test" game, I'm trying to figure which ones I'd like to use since it is a couple of years since I played last time!