Cargo Distribution

[ChillCore]

Powerout is unlikely ... unless you have reboot on powerout enabled.
Then still automatic plumbs do not switch themselves on after a shortcut.

[alemaaltevinden]

Powerout is unlikely ... unless you have reboot on powerout enabled.
Then still automatic plumbs do not switch themselves on after a shortcut.

I meant powerout in like, there wasn't any electricity in a short time.

Mm, lol, I can only join the server trough a 192.168 ip, but someone just joined, could someone confirm wheter they can join or not?

[OggVorbis]

Yes I can join. However I cannot find the game from before the power outage, where I ruled the world with my great company. Is that game lost forever now?

[alemaaltevinden]

Yes I can join. However I cannot find the game from before the power outage, where I ruled the world with my great company. Is that game lost forever now?

I'll take a look for you if it saved.

I have a few autosaves, you want me to send it to you?

[OggVorbis]

No thank you. I also have a few local savegames, but of course I'd like to continue with active competitors. I was hoping the server would continue with the last game, instead of starting a completely new one.

[alemaaltevinden]

No thank you. I also have a few local savegames, but of course I'd like to continue with active competitors. I was hoping the server would continue with the last game, instead of starting a completely new one.

It always throws an error when i try to load a game.

[Alberth]

While the conversation is most interesting, may I suggest to use a PM for this?
No need to alert everybody at the forum of new messages which are in fact a conversation between two people.

[FLHerne]

What does CargoDist do with conditional orders? In particular, surely an 'if load % not 0' can just be ignored because any following stations will always be visited if some cargo wants to go there - does this work?

Thanks

[Eddi]

conditional orders totally destroy any prefillng of the connectivity graph. you cannot analyze them correctly, except in some very narrow corner cases, which mayy or may not be useful enough to bother.

instead, it has to rely on a vehicle actually taking this route at least once, to send any cargo there...

[fonso]

It depends on the condition. For most conditions the algorithm just evaluates the condition based on the current state of the vehicle and then assumes the result for prefilling. For conditions based on load percentage to be evaluated while the vehicle is loading it takes the alternative which leads to most cargo being loaded at the current station.
The rationale is that most conditions change slowly enough to be approximated well enough by just assuming the current state of the vehicle. The questions which cargo to load based on next hop and where to go based on the amount of cargo loaded are in conjunction undecidable, so I've just taken some pragmatic approach there. Predicting the load percentage at some later stop is practically impossible (and being able to do so would create the same undecidable problem), so the algorithm might as well take a random guess when it sees a load percentage condition for some later hop while trying to guess a non-loading vehicle's next hops. Just evaluating it on the spot is apparently random enough. At least no one has complained so far.

So, to answer your question. In fact you might be able to do that trick, because loading something is more than loading nothing. However, if the vehicle is empty and cannot load any cargo (for example if there is none at the current station) when the condition is evaluated it might also prefill the other route. You have to show a savegame where it either works or not and then I can explain why it does what it does.

[YNM]

I have a problem with savegame compatibility :

old sav version : g7efff971-cd
loading version : ge2371f40-cd

when loading in the loading version, it says "broken savegame - invalid chunk size", are there any cause of this ?

[Arie-]

Builds (usually) are not saveagame compatible, use the old executable or start a new game.

[YNM]

Builds (usually) are not saveagame compatible, use the old executable or start a new game.

How could it be that I already upgraded it once before ? Is it because too far gap between the sav and the load ?
The only time I upgrading it is that they're in sequence.... do I need to do this too (and downloading about ~6 of the versions between) ?

[planetmaker]

Builds (usually) are not saveagame compatible, use the old executable or start a new game.

How could it be that I already upgraded it once before ? Is it because too far gap between the sav and the load ?
The only time I upgrading it is that they're in sequence.... do I need to do this too (and downloading about ~6 of the versions between) ?

You simply might have been lucky. Generally different builds of patches are not savegame compatible, especially if the underlying trunk version changed

[YNM]

How could it be that I already upgraded it once before ? Is it because too far gap between the sav and the load ?
The only time I upgrading it is that they're in sequence.... do I need to do this too (and downloading about ~6 of the versions between) ?

You simply might have been lucky. Generally different builds of patches are not savegame compatible, especially if the underlying trunk version changed

So it is a luck Oh my, what a nice one.
Thank you, will be remembered next time....

[Nat AS]

What does CargoDist do with conditional orders? In particular, surely an 'if load % not 0' can just be ignored because any following stations will always be visited if some cargo wants to go there - does this work?

Thanks

conditional orders totally destroy any prefillng of the connectivity graph. you cannot analyze them correctly, except in some very narrow corner cases, which mayy or may not be useful enough to bother.

instead, it has to rely on a vehicle actually taking this route at least once, to send any cargo there...

Wow, I'll have to say this is the first time searching through forms brought up a current discussion of the exact problem I happened to be looking for.

I enjoy using cargodist, but when distributing goods or food down the line, I notice that it dumps all the cargo at the first stop the first time, and then does the actual distribution the second time. However when I was building a rail line on an island with a food plant but no factory, that receved shipments of goods from the mainland via boat, I decided I would save room and have the Food train refit itself to carry the goods.

Each time it finished it's route, it would refit to goods, stop at the station and pick up any goods that were there, if there were no goods avalable, it would go back, refit to food, and continue on as normal, if there were goods, it would carry them down the same route it would take the food.

However when I did this, it seemed to be dumping all the food (or goods), onto the first station, dragging empty cars the rest of the way.

Although, on rare instances it would decided to distribute the cargo properly, although this seems to be random.


Will this ever be fixed? or is it a hard limit? I love cargodist and have a hard time enjoying OTTD without it. but I wish it didn't break like this.

[fonso]

Please provide a savegame! There are certain conditional orders that can be supported and others that can't. The problem is complicated and I can't guess what is happening in your game or even what you are trying to achieve.

It sounds like you have a condition based on load percentage after an order for loading. Cargodist cannot decide what to do there. It can either load cargo and fulfill one branch of the condition or not load it and fulfill the other branch (and if you think "it's clear it should load" then imagine multiple such conditions in a row with different stations and amounts of available cargo). In the end it doesn't know what you want it to do there. I'm willing to implement some kind of pragmatic solution to that ("load whatever you can and see where it gets you") but I need an example showing the problem.

And for the record: Eddi is wrong there. Conditional orders don't necessarily "totally destroy any prefilling of the connectivity graph". Certain conditional orders make prefilling extremely hard, though.

[JacobD88]

Crash for you Fonso with CD version g6def25ed-cd

When accessing the Advanced Settings->Cargo Distribution from the main menu

I get a CTD as soon as i click to expand the options and the message

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Assertion Failed at Line 59 of c:\bamboo-agent-home\xml-data\build-dir\ottd3pt-cd-w32bit-\src\strings_func.h: <= parent.num_param - parent.offset

And the following crash files...

crash.png

(520.84 KiB) Downloaded 1 time

crash.dmp

(1.45 MiB) Downloaded 79 times

Here's the log

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*** OpenTTD Crash Report ***

Crash at: Thu May 24 15:18:22 2012
In game date: 2051-05-09 (27)

Crash reason:
 Exception: E1212012
 Location:  7C812AFB
 Message:   Assertion failed at line 59 of c:\bamboo-agent-home\xml-data\build-dir\ottd3pt-cd-w32bit\src\strings_func.h: size <= parent.num_param - parent.offset

OpenTTD version:
 Version:    g6def25ed-cd (0)
 NewGRF ver: 13005ec6
 Bits:       32
 Endian:     little
 Dedicated:  no
 Build date: May 20 2012 02:19:51

Registers:
 EAX: 0013DF9C EBX: 00000016 ECX: 00000000 EDX: 00C629A0
 ESI: 00000000 EDI: 00000000 EBP: 0013DFEC ESP: 0013DF98
 EIP: 7C812AFB EFLAGS: 00200246

 Bytes at instruction pointer:
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Stack trace:
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 00BEB770 00452938 00008856 0013E97C 00000000 00000001 0013F091 0013E97C

Operating system:
 Name:     Windows
 Release:  5.1.2600 (Service Pack 3)
 Compiler: MSVC 1600

Configuration:
 Blitter:      8bpp-optimized
 Graphics set: OpenGFX (978)
 Language:     C:\Program Files\OpenTTD\OpenTTD CargoDist\lang\english.lng
 Music driver: dmusic
 Music set:    NoMusic (0)
 Network:      no
 Sound driver: win32
 Sound set:    OpenSFX (87)
 Video driver: win32

AI Configuration (local: 0):
  0: Human

Libraries:
 FreeType:   2.4.5
 ICU:        4.4.2
 LZMA:       5.0.3
 LZO:        2.05
 PNG:        1.5.4
 Zlib:       1.2.5

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Tick 62675: game loaded
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[Nat AS]

Please provide a savegame! There are certain conditional orders that can be supported and others that can't. The problem is complicated and I can't guess what is happening in your game or even what you are trying to achieve.

It sounds like you have a condition based on load percentage after an order for loading. Cargodist cannot decide what to do there. It can either load cargo and fulfill one branch of the condition or not load it and fulfill the other branch (and if you think "it's clear it should load" then imagine multiple such conditions in a row with different stations and amounts of available cargo). In the end it doesn't know what you want it to do there. I'm willing to implement some kind of pragmatic solution to that ("load whatever you can and see where it gets you") but I need an example showing the problem.

And for the record: Eddi is wrong there. Conditional orders don't necessarily "totally destroy any prefilling of the connectivity graph". Certain conditional orders make prefilling extremely hard, though.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24299180/OTTD/ ... 202082.sav Here is the savegame, Version is g1de4d2a5-cd
This savegame uses a bunch of newgrfs, but they should all be findable. The Tropic Refurbishment Set however does have a small issue with one of it's locomotives somehow being refitted to oil, But I don't think it's related to this one.

The train in question is Train5 in the Macintosh Fruit group. It's a 4 tile long container train on the small network in the island to the northwest, And it's orders look something like this

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1>Go non stop to the factory and full load
2>Go non stop the to the nearest depot and maintain as needed
3>Go non stop to the first town
4>Go non stop the to the nearest depot and maintain as needed
5>Go non stop to the second town
6>Go non stop the to the nearest depot and maintain as needed
7>Go non stop to the forth town
8>Go non stop the to the nearest depot and refit to goods
9>Go non stop to the factory
10>Jump to order 12 when load is equal to zero (Check the factory for goods, and if none are available, go back to carrying food)
11>Jump to order 3 when load is equal to zero (Now I'm really confused, I don't know what I was thinking last night, but this seems like it would break it, but it does not, strange. I have tried changing it for less bad orders, and nothing seems to change)
12>Go no stop to nearest train depot and refit to food (this resets the cycle)

The idea is that a train full loads with food, then at the end of it's route it refits to goods and stops at the port to see if there are any available, If there are none, it goes back to the depot, refits back to food, and starts it's network from the beginning once more. If there are goods, it takes them along it's normal route untill it runs out and refits back to food.

Upon re-examining my order list, I'm not even sure how it's supposed to accomplish that, but it does somehow, with the exception that it does not consistently distribute the cargo like it normally did before i added the goods part.

The idea is

[fonso]

Well, Net AS, you must have made some mistake with your orders there. Order 11 of train 5 can never be reached so it cannot actually take the "shortcut" back to order 3. Thus the train will always refit to food, no matter if it has loaded any goods at order 9. You might as well drop orders 10 and 11. If trunk behaves differently here then that's a bug in trunk.