Question from new graphic artist

Railwaymodeler · Post by **Railwaymodeler** » 23 Dec 2005 05:10

Hi, I'm new to creating graphics. I have decoded the file with roads in it, and have created some stop signs for my own enjoyment. However, after drawing them and re-coding the file, I find that road vehicles seem to drive on top of them. Anything I am doing wrong? I've searched the forums and can't find anyon with a similar question, and the FAQ didn't help.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 23 Dec 2005 06:00

Ground sprites (such as those for the roads) are flat. Editing them is like taking a can of spray-paint and painting something on the ground.
That's fine if that's the effect you want, but when it isn't you have to play games with where you spray your paint.

Railwaymodeler · Post by **Railwaymodeler** » 23 Dec 2005 06:11

So that's why I don't see streetsigns? How could I add them? Or would that involve new sprites? As an afterthought, that could be a good idea for the patch, random signs to appear along the road, you know, speed signs and such.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 23 Dec 2005 06:37

railwaymodeler wrote:So that's why I don't see streetsigns? How could I add them?

Like I said, you spraypaint very creatively. It's been achieved with some of the level-crossings in the USSet, for example. Unfortunately, it's not always possible to get things to look right.

railwaymodeler wrote:Or would that involve new sprites?

In order to do it correctly, yes. New sprites and a new patch feature to support them. The latter isn't going to happen for a while, since TTDPatch is entering beta (read: "feature freeze".)

Railwaymodeler · Post by **Railwaymodeler** » 23 Dec 2005 14:02

OK then. Let me ask this: If I was fluent in Visual Basic programming, would that be of ANY use in re-writing the patch? What language is it written in? I ask because I'm interested in making my own patches and graphics (I assume TTDPatch is open source of course)

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 23 Dec 2005 14:41

VB is better than no programming experience at all, but most of TTDPatch is written in ASM. It is possible to write patch code in C, but I believe it still requires knowledge of ASM to get the right code patched.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 23 Dec 2005 19:36

I've heard that eis_os is working on a completely new sprite-sorting mechanism which AFAIK would make this sort of thing possible. No guarantees though!

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 23 Dec 2005 20:39

Well the there is a stable version inbetween. Generally I am not really sure currently on my draft concept, so that could change... But the main idea remains, trying to simple let grf authors access A LOT ingame variables to select a spritelayout suited for the current tile.

Railwaymodeler · Post by **Railwaymodeler** » 24 Dec 2005 01:40

well, eis_os, untill you come up with that, maybe I'll stick to redrawing buildings and trains. PM me when you get something usable you want someone to try

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